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    Posted: 11 Dec 2013 at 10:10pm
So I found this thread working with the same chip and motherboard I have. I was thinking of just going with the settings this guy used to achieve 4.4 on a 4770k chip. Does anything look odd or potentially damaging from these settings. Its been a while since I messed with an overclock. Last one was a q9550 core 2 quad and things have changed a little since then. Also this is my first attempt building myself which so far has been succesful. I would never have attempted it without the knowladge gained from my digital storm purchase years ago.Big%20Smile
Specs include 2x8gb gskill 1600 gtx760 4770k MSI Z87-G45 Gaming LGA 1150  
http://www.overclockersclub.com/guides/overclock_intel_4770k_guide/3.htm
CPU Voltage
1.2v
CPU Frequency
4400
CPU Multiplier
44
CPU Ring Ratio
39 (3900)
CPU Ring Voltage
1.176v
System Agent Voltage
1.088v / (+ .250)
I/O Analog Voltage
1.016v / (Auto)
I/O Digital Voltage
------ / (Auto)
BLCK
100
CPU Temp
73 °C
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  Quote fstcvc Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 Dec 2013 at 7:22am
Not much of self OC'ing, but it looks okay to me. I'm sure Meller is roaming around and will let you know - he's the OC Expert around these parts...
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  Quote XpubuX Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 Dec 2013 at 8:52am
Went ahead with the oc and my chip seems to be hitting 4.4 with no problems max temp in prime are 68 C and idle temps in the low 30's. I however did not change the cpu ring voltage and it is set to auto. I do not really want to push my chip any harder than this as I want it to live a long life. I am thinking I should try lowering voltages to try and find my chips sweet spot.
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  Quote fstcvc Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 Dec 2013 at 9:41pm
Are you air-cooling or water-cooling? Unless you're running water or a giant air cooler (ala Noctura), I'd probably knock it down a little to 4.0-4.2 if longevity is in mind...
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  Quote Meller Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Dec 2013 at 2:00pm
Well well well, what do we have here?

Ok let's play some here.  I'm assuming from this point on you're in the BIOS in the OC section.  We will just work our way down with base line settings and how to go from there to get the best stability you can get.

CPU Base Clock : Don't change.  Should be 100mhz
CPU Base Clock Strap:  Just leave on AUTO
CPU Apply Mode: I prefer next boot, instead of immediate. 
CPU PCIE PLL: Auto
Filter PLL: Auto
CPU Ratio: Set to your OC.  I recommend starting at 42 to establish stability for a solid OC, save it as a profile once we get it, then go back and up it to 44 and adjust the voltage accordingly.
CPU Ratio Mode: Dynamic.  Enables C1 stepping that let's it down clock when load is minimal.  Saves on life and limits heat generation.
Enhanced Turbo: Can leave as AUTO
Ring Ratio: ~100mhz less than your total OC. So 41 for this case (or 43 if you went with 4.4ghz)
DRAM: Use the XMP setting. 
Don't use mem fast boot
Voltage Mode: Adaptive Mode (it's new and I love it in the z77
CPU Core Voltage: 1.075 (if you can get this you have a pretty good cpu. 1.05 is a damn good cpu.  If it doesn't boot, bump it up by .05)
Voltage Offset Mode: Auto
Voltage Offset: Auto
Voltage Mode: Adaptive
Ring Voltage: 1.050 (about .025 less than cpu core voltage)

Try to boot, if it fails, clear your cmos and start again.  Just go up the .05 each time.  The rest of the voltages aren't really important for the hardware you're using.  Also I've read a lot of reviews saying update the BIOS to the latest 1.3 to fix a lot of instability issues.

Let me know if you have any questions.

For obviously purposes I have to say as a disclaimer that I only approve OC'ing to be done by people who know what they're doing and understand the risk in it. I, in no, take responsibility for any changes you do or any damages that occur during the over clocking on your PC.  Good luck.



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  Quote XpubuX Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Dec 2013 at 8:13pm
Thanks meller very helpful advice. I like your overclocking style. I will probably start working on this later tonight. Setting up a 44 and 42 oc profile is what I am hoping for. My motherboard has an auto oc button that takes it to 40 but I would rather use custom a OC. What is the cpu apply mode? Also all drivers for the motherboard and gpu are up to date, first thing I did after OS install. It is amazing to see a mid range card beating my old gtx280's in sli. Big cards mean big heat. Don't think I will ever drop a grand in GPU's as technology keeps getting better and cards alaways become outdated quickly. Though I will probably get another 760 when I find the money.   
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  Quote Meller Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Dec 2013 at 9:56pm
Auto OC's always suck.  You can always do better.

And I'm not talking about updating drivers. I'm talking about updating your BIOS.  They say the 1.3 fixes stability issues. You'll have to flash it.  Just go to MSI's website, and they should have the utility there under your mobo's downloads to update the bios.  Do this before you do your OC, as it'll erase everything you've done.

I buy top of the line GPU's, you have to realize how many generations it took before a mid range card could out perform your 280's.  How many years it lasted, compared to if you had bought say a 260 or something... high end cards last longer, so you could say the high price tag is worth it as it ensure it'll compete much longer against relevant cards than lower end.

let me know if you have any more questions. lol and thanks for the shout out FSTCVC. Much love ;)
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  Quote XpubuX Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Dec 2013 at 8:56am

My bios is updated to version 1.7. If you got the money I guess why not go top of the line. Some day I will have to get a nice $10k machine with whistles and bells but until then I will stick in the mid range and just plan on replacing cards in a few years. I game at 1200p so two 760 should max me out on most games as one plays pretty smooth alone on high settings.

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  Quote XpubuX Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Dec 2013 at 9:47am
So it booted up with cpu voltage at 1.05
Ring voltage 1.04
ratio 42 ring ratio41
But crashed prime right away
Next did 1.075 and 1.05
crash
bumped it up in .025 increments crashing in prime 95 till I reached below.
vcore 1.125
vring 1.1
ratio42
ring ratio41
Prime has been going for about 15 min solid so far.
I'm guessing I got an average chip?


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  Quote Meller Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Dec 2013 at 11:09am
Still a good chip.  Ivy Bridge requires ~1.2v for 4.4ghz, and you're only at a 1.125 so you're still straight. 

I believe in a 24 hour stress test to ensure no cores have errors because i put the label of stability on it.  If it's stable after that, save that profile and work on 4.4ghz.  I have a feeling it'll be around 1.2-1.225v probably if 1.125v is stable at 4.2ghz.

Looking good.  If you're using the stock cooler, I would be pushing it way past 4.2ghz.  If you upgrade to a top of the line air cooler or a Corsair H80-H100 then 4.4-4.5ghz will be no problem at all.
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  Quote XpubuX Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Dec 2013 at 12:06pm
using coolmaster 212 evo air cooler I have lowerd voltage to vcore 1.11 ring volt 1.085 gonna let prime run for a while now. current max temp is 62 C
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  Quote Meller Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Dec 2013 at 9:44pm
24 hour stress test.  really want to push that memory and cpu, and push out max heat.  If you can't do a 24 hour stress test, don't OC.  You really need to burn it in to test it's stability.

I'm glad it's running so well for you!  You should be able to do 4.4-4.5ghz easily.
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  Quote XpubuX Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Dec 2013 at 10:03pm
So after 4 hours I blue screened. I have bumped it up to 1.130vcore and 1.105 vring two hours of prime95 and no blue screens got my fingers crossed.
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  Quote XpubuX Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Dec 2013 at 10:13am
Got er stable at 1.130vcore woohoo
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  Quote Meller Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Dec 2013 at 1:39pm
Save it and move on up to the next step. ;)
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  Quote XpubuX Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Dec 2013 at 5:55pm
So I was trying to get it to 4.4 with ring ratio 43  but at 1.215vcore and 1.190 vring I was idling near 50C and bsod after an hour with max temps at 79C. I am just going to stick with the 4.2 OC and give my chip a little room to breath as this idles around 30C and max temp after 16 hours was only 71C.  Thanks for your input fstcvc and Meller Awesome
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  Quote Meller Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 Dec 2013 at 7:47am
It was all FSTCVC... I was merely here for support.
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  Quote XpubuX Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 17 Dec 2013 at 7:47pm
Well I decided to see what she was made of and put the vcore at 1.242 ( This is the highest I am feeling would be safe on air cooling) and lowerd the ring to default.
Booted up at 4.7 and 4.6 crashing under stress test
Success was found at 4.5 with 12 hours stress tested in prime95 highest temp was 81C idle was in the upper 30's. Gonna save this profile. Strong
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  Quote Meller Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Dec 2013 at 12:35am
Congrats!!!  I'm glad I could have been of some help.  
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