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    Posted: 10 Dec 2010 at 5:48pm
Hey everyone, was looking to build a decently specced computer for ~1000USD. I first checked out the more well-known competition (cyberpower/ibuypower) but have heard mixed reviews, in one of those reviews was mentioned your company and when I did more research, everything has been positive. without further adieu here is the form for this forum filled out.


Budget:
I am trying to get this to 1000USD without sacrificing too much performance.

Expectations:
Single monitor gaming and photo/video editing computer

Usage:
I don't play alot of FPS, but I want to play Starcraft II at high settings, WoW at its highest even in big raids, I plan to play Star Wars Old Republic/DC Universe/Diablo 3 when they are released and wish to play them at/near full rez. I am also a photographer, and wish for better performance with Photoshop CS4/Lightroom and my HDR programming.

Special Needs:
Nothing special, just mild overclocking, future upgradeability

Saved Ticket #: 467663

Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Maelstrom
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: AMD Phenom II X4 965 (3.4GHz) (Quad Core) (Black Edition) (8 MB Cache) AM3 Socket
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-890XA-UD3 (AMD 790X Chipset) (USB 3.0) (Socket AM3)
System Memory: 4GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 500W Digital Storm Certified
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (1TB Hitachi/Seagate (7200 RPM) (32MB Cache)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTS 450 1GB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 1: High Performance Cooler (Compatible With i5/i7/AMD Processors)
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: FREE: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz (Cooling Upgrade Recommended)
Boost Video Card: FREE: Yes, Overclock the video card(s) as much as possible with complete stability
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
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2nd option: Ticket #467700

Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - HAF 922
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i5 760 2.8GHz (Quad Core)
Motherboard: EVGA P55MV SLI Edition (Intel P55 Chipset) (New Revision Supports 1600MHz Memory)
System Memory: 4GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 750W Digital Storm Certified (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition Recommended)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (1TB Hitachi/Seagate (7200 RPM) (32MB Cache)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 1GB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: Standard Factory Heat-sink and Fan (Not Recommended for CPU Overclocking)
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: FREE: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz (Cooling Upgrade Recommended)
Boost Video Card: FREE: Yes, Overclock the video card(s) as much as possible with complete stability
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
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youre getting much closer on the second one here, still waiting to hear back from DSO on taht MV board, cant reccomend it yet.
the sad thing is, with the current market, its really hard to buy under 1450ish without cheating yourself. outdated hardware doesnt drop in price as fast as it should, so every 50ish under that line that you go, youre getting older gear and still paying close to the same amount of money relatively
 
i usually try and reccommend you get as close to 1300-1400 as possible, even if it means saving for a while, a good computer can last you 3+ years, its an investment worth saving for if thats what it takes
 
all that being said, the 2nd build really isnt too bad, that mobo and lack of a cpu cooler concern me, and you could get to a 470 without too much more money... but the p55 mobo choices are hurting right now
see what i mean by just a little more money lol? let me get an answer on the MV board and we will try and get something together for you
is waiting/saving till about 1400ish an option for you? most of your desired uses there are on the higher end of performance
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yea, i know what you mean about those 50$ here and there. i am always saying, well its only 60 more for this, then 50 more for that, etc. then when you add it up, you are right in the low 1400$ish range.

i may be able to swing the 1300-1400 range. it would mean using my old monitor for a month or so, but worth it in the long run when its 3 years from now and i am either happy i did this, or kicking myself for trying to save 200$. so if you can put something together for that, i would be interested to see it and how it differs from what i put together.


edit- feel free to scrap my ideas totally and just do whatever you would do if you had that money to spend if that is best.

Edited by Hards80 - 10 Dec 2010 at 11:50pm
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What res you gonna be gaming at?

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Posts: 4219 		  Quote !ender_ Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 11 Dec 2010 at 8:25am
Originally posted by Hards80


edit- feel free to scrap my ideas totally and just do whatever you would do if you had that money to spend if that is best.
as soon as i get an answer on that MV board it will be a lot easier to answer this... back shortly
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Originally posted by DST4ME

What res you gonna be gaming at?


i would like to do 1680x1050 very smoothly and some 1920 if at all possible.
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Originally posted by !ender_

Originally posted by Hards80

edit- feel free to scrap my ideas totally and just do whatever you would do if you had that money to spend if that is best.


as soon as i get an answer on that MV board it will be a lot easier to answer this... back shortly


thank you for taking the time to check on this.
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for i5 its kinda pointless, the mv can't oc, the asus mobos here for i5 don't support sli or well basically are not good at all.


for i7 this is what I came up with:

Ticket Number: 467889

now the 460 will give you what you want at 1600 x 1200 but at 1900 x 1200 it might have problems with some games as far as getting 60 fps goes.

Edited by DST4ME - 11 Dec 2010 at 7:57pm

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Stick with the 760 over the 655K. Four real cores are better than 2 real cores and 2 hyperthreaded cores.
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After looking at the p55 mobos here only the ftw makes sense and at that price range he might as well get a x58 system.

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I would highly recommend the ATI 6870 for the best price to performance ratio.

Originally posted by Dragoonseal

Stick with the 760 over the 655K. Four real cores are better than 2 real cores and 2 hyperthreaded cores.


I would also recommend a dual core over a quad if you're looking to save money.  The difference between the dual i5-655k and the quad i7-750 in gaming is very minimal stock, and overclocked by only 600MHz over the quad, outperforms it.


ATI 6870 vs GTX 570, while the 570 does outperform it, the 6870 is also quite a bit cheaper.




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Originally posted by venom

I would also recommend a dual core over a quad if you're looking to save money.  The difference between the dual i5-655k and the quad i7-750 in gaming is very minimal stock, and overclocked by only 600MHz over the quad, outperforms it.
of course at +600mhz higher clocks it outperforms a 760....
a q6600 overclocked beats a 875k stock, doesnt make it a more powerful chip.
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My point is, you don't absolutely need a quad core for gaming.
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A 760 at 3.9GHz will always match or beat out a 655K at 3.9GHz, four real cores beat 2 hyper-threaded cores, so I'm not sure what you're trying to go with this? The 760 is only +$26 more than the 655K, I'd call that the deal, not the 655K.
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i don't really see where he was going with that either... comparing cpus with different clocks is like comparing apples to oranges. for that chart to have any relevance they would have to be the same.

many applications don't use hyper threading effectively and can sometimes have reduced performance, so having 4 real full cores is more powerful then have 2 cores with hyper threading to make 4 cores.

for $26 he is much better off with the four considering most games can only run at a max of 2.5 cores. some do 4 cores (some effectively and some not) but they are to become more numerous in the future. considering this is a investment why should he shoot him self in the foot for later?

just to let you know the performance with the 460 is all over the place... high max fps and really low min fps... i would go with a amd 6870 over the 460. also with out upgrades cpu cooling your not going to have a very high overclock, you could probably expect anywhere 3.3-3.6ghz range
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Originally posted by Dragoonseal

A 760 at 3.9GHz will always match or beat out a 655K at 3.9GHz, four real cores beat 2 hyper-threaded cores, so I'm not sure what you're trying to go with this? The 760 is only +$26 more than the 655K, I'd call that the deal, not the 655K.


In multi-threaded applications sure, but again, for gaming, the difference is minimal.
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Originally posted by Raif

i don't really see where he was going with that either... comparing cpus with different clocks is like comparing apples to oranges. for that chart to have any relevance they would have to be the same.


Then look at stock clocks only, fps difference is minimal.

Originally posted by Raif


many applications don't use hyper threading effectively and can sometimes have reduced performance, so having 4 real full cores is more powerful then have 2 cores with hyper threading to make 4 cores.


Agreed, though we are looking at primarily a gaming machine, not a workstation.

Originally posted by Raif


for $26 he is much better off with the four considering most games can only run at a max of 2.5 cores. some do 4 cores (some effectively and some not) but they are to become more numerous in the future. considering this is a investment why should he shoot him self in the foot for later?


Not sure where you get that information, I'd like to see a source.  $26 is minimal in the price difference though that could be used towards a better power supply, or something else.

Originally posted by Raif


just to let you know the performance with the 460 is all over the place... high max fps and really low min fps... i would go with a amd 6870 over the 460. also with out upgrades cpu cooling your not going to have a very high overclock, you could probably expect anywhere 3.3-3.6ghz range


Agreed, I'd recommend the 6870 over the GTX 460.  On the stock CPU cooler you will most likely be limited to 3.3GHz.
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