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Herniter 
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 Topic: Fermi reviews / benchesPosted: 26 Mar 2010 at 7:31pm |
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Updated with a much larger list from Justin. Thanks for the list.
Will update the list as I find more. http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3783 - SLI / CF included http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/3203/nvidia_geforce_gtx_470_video_card_tested/index.html - 470 only http://pcper.com/article.php?aid=888 - 470 and 480 http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-480,2585.html - 470 and 480 http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_480_Fermi/ - 480 only http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-470-480-review/ - 470 and 480 http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2010/03/27/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-1-5gb-review/1 480 only http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/03/26/nvidia_fermi_gtx_470_480_sli_review - 470 and 480 http://lab501.ro/placi-video/nvidia-gtx480-animal-magnetism - non English Edited by Herniter - 06 Apr 2010 at 12:50am |
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DST4ME
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Posted: 26 Mar 2010 at 8:28pm |
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guru3d will give you both 470 and 480 performance in one shot.
looking that the sites that did it right, the 470 seems bot be a great card for a great deal. |
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justin.kerr
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Posted: 26 Mar 2010 at 8:36pm |
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The Fermi's seem to really scale well in SLI, very surprising for brand new tech/drivers.
but man do they run hot, and draw a holy crap load of power, HX1000 no way for tri SLI, it sucked for TRI on most cards, but no way with the GTX 480's.
Overclocking is better than expected, that is a huge, huge plus.
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DST4ME
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Posted: 26 Mar 2010 at 9:00pm |
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with that much power who needs tri sli 480? lol.
2 of those bad boys will take care of whatever at 2560 x 1600. but for somebody like me that might want 4 or somebody that needs 3 the enermax 1250 or the psu that I got (silverstone 1500) will do fine  LC is must tho  otherwise the pc would melt
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Kaleliar
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Posted: 27 Mar 2010 at 1:55am |
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So now im gonna spend 500 instead of 400.... thanks nVidia... there goes 1/6th of the tax return.
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justin.kerr
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Posted: 27 Mar 2010 at 12:13pm |
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tri GTX 480's is not even close to enough powa for 30" monitor, let alone 3 of them.
 30FPS not going to cut it 
sure hope the new Fermi's perform better. I think Nvidia just needs a bit more time, to get the kinks worked out, it seems to be a great new platform, just released too early..
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Posted: 27 Mar 2010 at 3:22pm |
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one 480 is doing very close to 5970 at 2560 x 1600 and getting 50 to 60 fps or higher in most games with single card:
Far Cry 2: 53 fps Tom Clancy's HAWX: 73 fps Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2: 92 fps Colin McRae Dirt 2: 57 fps Anno 1404 - Dawn of Discovery : 42 fps Call of Duty 5: World at War: 67 fps Gaming: Mass Effect: 83 fps Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway: 79 fps Resident Evil 5: 80 fps this all at 2560 x 1600, 1 x 480 gtx. --------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------- now below games get lower fps and will need dual/tri sli at 2560 x 1600, tho I'm interested to see who well it will do, keep in mind a 5970 also gets around the same performance (around 30 fps in these games also) Battlefield Bad Company 2 DX11 Metro 2033 Crysis WARHEAD this all with 60Hz monitor. when the 120Hz monitors become mainstream then I will worry about performance on them. |
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Amen justin, I can imagine how much juice it'll suck if somebody eventualy Tri-SLI's GTX480s xD. You're gonna need a holy crap super-max case ventilation to even TRY to overclock, and power usage in excess of 750 watts! |
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Posted: 29 Mar 2010 at 9:59am |
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I'd be interested in seeing a DS system with two OC'd 480's: just what kind of temps you'd be dealing with, and cooling solutions available.
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Posted: 29 Mar 2010 at 10:39am |
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Here's a question.. Do we know what the temps will be on an air cooled system using the noctua on the 480 card? I'm just very worried getting one of these because i can only do air cooling....
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Posted: 29 Mar 2010 at 4:32pm |
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noctua is a cpu cooler not gpu, it has nothing to do with the gpus.
your temps will depend on your case and room temp, but as long as you have warranty you have nothing to worry about, lol. these cards run warm so temp are gonna be high. Edited by DST4ME - 29 Mar 2010 at 4:32pm |
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Posted: 29 Mar 2010 at 11:28pm |
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I think the point is that without LC on the GPU, it seems impossible
that 100% of the heat from these monsters can be eliminated from the
case with only air cooling...thereby raising case and cpu temps....
especially those running 8 threads at 100%.
Just running my GTS250 at 100% crunching raises my cpu temps 5 degrees....even after using MSIAfterurner.....
My GTS250 runs at 63 degrees and raises my cpu 5 degrees.
I can only imagine what would happen to CPU temperatures with a GPU card that runs at 90-95 degrees (almost boiling water) and does not have LC.
I have added all the fans I can already.
I do not think these cards should be recommended on air cooled systems.
Who cares about the warranty....who whats to pack up a pc and ship it 4000 miles round trip.?
Wait until nvidia gets it act together with the temps in its next gen card.
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Posted: 30 Mar 2010 at 4:56am |
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justin is your 250 oced by any chance? if my gpus that put 90+ temps 24/7 in a dell case with very little airflow, I'm sure that an haf can do a much better job.
nothing wrong with the cpu in teh dell pcs either, their temps are fine and within range. as you know I'm a folder, so all my pcs have the gpu and cpu running 100% 24/7, heat is always an issue, but like I said if the stupid dell cases can handle it then I'm sure the haf and the cases here can do much better. but LC would be better for these cards. I'm sure if the temp on air was such a big deal then DS would not sell them like that, cause all the rma from the heat would put them out of business. Edited by DST4ME - 30 Mar 2010 at 4:57am |
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Posted: 31 Mar 2010 at 5:15am |
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I don't know how good the reviews are but here are some youtube vids by motherboards.org. Just posting to add to compiled reviews out there.
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Posted: 02 Apr 2010 at 7:01pm |
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I ordered my system with SLI GTX 480, was really excited...
THEN I read the reviews on the power, heat and lackluster performance and went back to Crossfire 5870 x2. (Thank goodness I could get it changed.)
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Posted: 02 Apr 2010 at 9:15pm |
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not sure what reviews you read but the 480 kicks the 5870's butt by atleast 20%,. in games like crysis it makes a huge difference.
btw what is a 5870 x2? |
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justin.kerr
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Posted: 02 Apr 2010 at 11:41pm |
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5870 beats the 480 in Crysis, and overal the 5870 loses by 10%-13%
. at high res the 5870 does better, high aa the 480 does better.
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Posted: 03 Apr 2010 at 12:23am |
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lol what happened to ONE MILLOIN PERCENT BETTER. and look at this sample COMPLET WITH DECK SCREWS.......
lol so nividia just made a card that can just barley beat ati's cards but took 6 months to do it.
damn, i really (truthfully) hoped i could put on my green glasses again, looks like im sticking with red!
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Posted: 03 Apr 2010 at 1:20am |
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I have the 480 beating the 5870 at guru3d in crysis at 2x aa, at tech powerup I have them tied, other places have the 480 beating it, like anantech, newseaker, as a matter of fact I don't see anybody showing the 5870 beating 480 in crysis, either the 480 beats it or they are tied, and at higher res I see the 480 doing better then the 5870 in almost all the benches I see, bit-tech is the only place that has opposite results of everybody else.
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Posted: 03 Apr 2010 at 2:06am |
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sorry Justin....DST4ME says that the reviews say you are wrong about
the 5870 beating the 480 in high res...too bad
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Posted: 03 Apr 2010 at 4:01am |
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well maybe he did his own tests and those were the results of his tests, as you see all the review can't exactly agree either, cause the setup is different from each other.
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Posted: 03 Apr 2010 at 12:07pm |
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might want to re-read a few benches, then see the average. lol Guru 3d does not count because, well they are mentally challenged.. they have a pic of their setup, with the cards in the wrong slots, they are know to be, well, umm , challenged. lol
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforc...70-480-review/
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=24000 http://www.legionhardware.com/articl...arrives,1.html http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3783 http://techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDI...GTX_480_Fermi/ http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/N...Scaling/1.html http://hardocp.com/article/2010/03/2...480_sli_review http://www.computerbase.de/news/hard...e_gtx_480_470/ http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=888 http://www.legionhardware.com/articl...arrives,1.html http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=24000 http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=23132 http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews.php?reviewid=950 http://www.elitebastards.com/index.p...iews&Itemid=31 http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...2361767,00.asp http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...0_performance/ http://hothardware.com/Articles/NVID...100-Has-Landed http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1258/1/ http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...80-review.html http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...70-review.html http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Ha.../gtx480launch/ http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...=480&Itemid=72 http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,7...marks/Reviews/ http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/32...ted/index.html http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1831 http://www.pcworld.fr/article/materi...0-test/481611/ http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/h...force_gtx_480/ http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...-480,2585.html http://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.php...-comeback.html http://lab501.ro/placi-video/nvidia-...imal-magnetism http://www.tweakpc.de/hardware/tests...tx_480/s01.php http://www.sweclockers.com/articles_...id=6236&page=1 http://www.ninjalane.com/reviews/video/nv_gtx480 http://www.techspot.com/news/38385-n...i-arrives.html http://www.techarp.com/showarticle.a...tno=668&pgno=0 http://www.hardware.fr/articles/787-...e-gtx-480.html http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/nvidia_gtx480/ http://www.maximumpc.com/article/fea...d_power_hungry http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-...-679629/review http://www.erenumerique.fr/geforce_g...rt-2603-1.html http://www.ixbt.com/video3/gf100-2-part1.shtml http://plaza.fi/muropaketti/artikkel...-gtx-480-gf100 http://www.itocp.com/htmls/59/n-959-22.html http://www.nordichardware.com/en/tes...-is-over-.html http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/gra...280mb-review/1 http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/201...1-5gb-review/1 http://www.insidehw.com/Reviews/Grap...-Paid-Off.html http://ht4u.net/reviews/2010/nvidia_geforce_gtx_480/ http://www.hitechlegion.com/reviews/...eo-card-review http://www.hartware.net/review_1079.html http://pctuning.tyden.cz/hardware/gr...st-fermi-gf100 http://www.trustedreviews.com/graphi...X-470-Fermi/p1 http://techgage.com/article/nvidia_g...00_has_landed/ and new stuff
GTX 480 vs Sapphire 5870 Toxic 2GB
HEXUS GTX 480 vs Asus Matrix HD 5870 2GB Tech Report and a summary of all of em put together lol
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4309768&postcount=238 Edited by justin.kerr - 03 Apr 2010 at 12:11pm |
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Posted: 03 Apr 2010 at 12:51pm |
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lol
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Posted: 03 Apr 2010 at 3:45pm |
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what do you mean in teh wrong slot? the difference between 8x and 16x slots are like 4 fps, and even if they have it in teh wrong slot, both 480 and 5870 would be in teh supposed wrong slot, which means they would have the same results so I dont' see how anybody is challenged.
but most of the links you posted show what I said, the 480 does better then teh 5870 in 2560 x 1600. and most but one either show the 480b beating the 5870 in crysis or matching it. hexus you mentioned shows teh same thing: 
the toxic 2GB has a higer clock then the stock card so that is why its doing better, raise the 480's clock by the same margin and the 480 will beat the toxic also. Edited by DST4ME - 03 Apr 2010 at 3:58pm |
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if you take the time to analyze all the reviews, I know it i crazy amount of data to go through, but I have, and the summary is pretty simple, because of two things, one, Fermis early drivers, and two different architecture. The 5870 does very well at all resolutions, without AA, crank up the AA and the 5870 reduces FPS at a rate higher than the GTX 480, one reason is because of the poor quality of AA that Nvidia uses, here is a pic of what I mean
So you can see as you crank up the AA, it is easy to see why ATI falls behind, so more AA= greater FPS between Fermi and 5870.. So with say 2560x1600 res, you don't need as much AA as you do with smaller res, so it is really up to the reviewer, and thus a lot of skewed numbers, the one French review took the time do run all the tests, with no AA 2AA 4AA ect, and it really made a good, clear picture of what was going on.
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kainhall
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Posted: 03 Apr 2010 at 5:10pm |
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so, some games ati wins , some games there tied and some ati looses. so, at ultra high everything--30 inch lcd screen max aa the 480 wins but by at max 25 fps?
and the cost of a 480 plus 100 more i can get a 5970 with will beat the hell out of a 480 in all tests. not a suprise there 2 cores vs 1. but the cost.
the main reason i will be going ati in 24 days, when i get paid, is the cost to performance ratio. ya, its sweet that core to core nivida wins, cool. but for what your paying you could get something way better for a little more...... 75 to 80 percent higher performance, 15% higher cost
i dont know if you see it my way, im sure the 495 will own the 5970, but, its going to be 1 to 2 months. by that time ati will be RIGHT on the edge of there 6xxx line. so we all save up our money only to find out that ati beats the 495. NVidia, majorly set behind by this 4xx problem will again be 4 to 6 months late.
seems like a circle. its exactly the same thing when amd stayed out of turbo boost and hyper threading and stuck to the athlons and intel moved on to the core 2 and the nethelem set up.
glad to see nv FINALLY got these out to tie ati. hopfully they can get some games to place teh "the way its ment to fail" logo on there so they can get money.
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Posted: 03 Apr 2010 at 7:07pm |
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I do like the 480 stats though
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Posted: 03 Apr 2010 at 10:47pm |
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like most, i was planning on spending my $$$ this spring on Fermi.
The product released was not what was expected...an ATI killer.
I WILL be buying one but it will be a Christmas present, when NVIDIA gets its act together...not with the current rushed release.
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Posted: 03 Apr 2010 at 11:55pm |
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Speaking of the 470, I wonder how it does with FSX Acceleration?
I know I should pick out another flight sim, but I hate X-Plane 9. (if there is a better place for this post, please place it there. Thank You) Edited by pwcorgi - 03 Apr 2010 at 11:59pm |
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Posted: 06 Apr 2010 at 12:12am |
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well, nvidia does need to get its act together, mabey with better drivers they will get a decent lead over ati.
i just hate the hype
LOOK WOOD SCREWS were so close to release
then 3 months later, still nothing
and finally when its released the 500% better then the 5870 is a little 15% better.
and, becaseu these cards run hot, overclocking is not going to go very far with out LC or high $$ air. i really thought that they were going to release the 480 and it would be 30 to 50 percent better then the 5870, and when overclocked, it could be 100% better.
and by december, the 6xxx will be out. dont go spending your money yet Edited by kainhall - 09 Apr 2010 at 10:55am |
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