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    Posted: 22 Jun 2012 at 1:13pm
Hello All.
     I have decide on a Digital Storm desktop pc for my next gaming system.  Have read many a good word about the company and products.
     This system will be used to surf the web and run games, but I want to be able to play the current games on the highest possible settings with the highest possible frames per seconds.
     I will be using my currnet monitor (Dell 3007w) at its highest resolution (2560 x 1600).
     I do not want to break my descretionary spending limit of $5000.
     Please critique this system, ask questions, and give advice.
Thanks in advance.
 
Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Black OPS HailStorm Edition
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 3930K 3.2GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Six-Core)
Motherboard: ASUS Rampage IV Extreme X79 (Intel X79 Chipset) (Features USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s) <b></b>
System Memory: 16GB DDR3 2133MHz Corsair Dominator GT with DHX (High-Performance) <b></b>
Power Supply: 1200W Corsair Pro Gold Series (CMPSU-1200AX) (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) <b></b>
Expansion Bay: Internal Digital Media Card Reader (Black) <b></b>
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (Model: Black Edition) <b></b>
Set 1 Raid Options: Configure HDD Set 1 to a Raid 1 Config - Mirror (Requires Two HDDs) <b></b>
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (Model: Black Edition)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: ASUS Blu-Ray Player/DVD Writer (Play Blu-Ray and Burn DVDs) (Model: BC-12B1ST)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 2GB (Includes PhysX)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Creative Labs Sound Blaster Recon3D Fatal1ty Professional <b></b>
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex 240mm Radiator Liquid CPU Cooler (Extreme-Performance Edition)
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (White) <b></b>
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: HailStorm & 950Si: Processor & Video Card Area: Drill and Mount Two Side Window 120mm Fan Blow-Holes <b></b>
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 2: Overclock CPU 4.5GHz to 4.8GHz (Requires Pro/Deluxe/Sabertooth Motherboard)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Extra Large) <b></b>
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty
    
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 22 Jun 2012 at 1:56pm
Hi shot... Welcome to the forums.    That is a great build.       The Hailstorm case is primarily a case for full water cooled setups.   The HafX is the best for air cooled. That being said, adding the side fans and with the Vortex 240mm unit with its two fans mounted to the top,    the Hailstorm should have good airflow.   I'd recommend the HafX case for the best in airflow and its large low rpm fans are quiet. Your call as always.       My other recommendation would be to use ram with 1600mhz speed.   The 2133 mhz you' ll never see and it can be unstable when overclocked.       For strictly gaming you don't need X79 pkatform but it does allow for tri sli, 3x gtx680 in the future. I would also go with Win7 Pro, in case you wanted to go beyond 16gb ram.     Not much else to say except this rig is gonna deliver some great gaming.   Best of luck and keep us posted.

Edited by bprat22 - 22 Jun 2012 at 1:59pm
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  Quote FrankW Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 22 Jun 2012 at 3:41pm
Hi shot,

That is a good build but I don't think it meets your stated requirements. You want to play all games at extreme settings and your two 680 2 Gb cards isn't go to do that with a 2560 monitor. Here is a build that is way more powerful than your system with a better case for air cooling you GPUs with less noise.

Frank

Configuration: 701568 Cost: $4959

Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master 942 HAF X
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 3930K 3.2GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Six-Core)
Motherboard: ASUS Rampage IV Extreme X79 (Intel X79 Chipset) (Features USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s)
System Memory: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1200W Corsair Pro Gold Series (CMPSU-1200AX) (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (120GB Solid State (By: Corsair) (Model: Force GT Series CSSD-F120GBGT-BK) (SATA 6Gbps)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (Model: Black Edition)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: ASUS Blu-Ray Player/DVD Writer (Play Blu-Ray and Burn DVDs) (Model: BC-12B1ST)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 3x SLI Triple (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 4GB (Includes PhysX)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex 240mm Radiator Liquid CPU Cooler (Extreme-Performance Edition)
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 2: Overclock CPU 4.5GHz to 4.8GHz (Requires Pro/Deluxe/Sabertooth Motherboard)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty

Edited by FrankW - 22 Jun 2012 at 3:41pm
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  Quote FrankW Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 22 Jun 2012 at 3:47pm
shot, if you just have to have the Hailstorm case then here is a build with that case. It is $33 over your budget but is a better build for the Hailstorm case. The first build I put up is more powerful with three GPUs.

Frank

Configuration: 701568 Cost: $5033

Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Black OPS HailStorm Edition
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 3930K 3.2GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Six-Core)
Motherboard: ASUS Rampage IV Extreme X79 (Intel X79 Chipset) (Features USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s)
System Memory: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1200W Corsair Pro Gold Series (CMPSU-1200AX) (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (120GB Solid State (By: Corsair) (Model: Force GT Series CSSD-F120GBGT-BK) (SATA 6Gbps)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (Model: Black Edition)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: ASUS Blu-Ray Player/DVD Writer (Play Blu-Ray and Burn DVDs) (Model: BC-12B1ST)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 4GB (Includes PhysX)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 6: Sub-Zero LCS Dual Loop: CPU & Dual SLI/CrossFire Video Cards
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 2: Overclock CPU 4.5GHz to 4.8GHz (Requires Pro/Deluxe/Sabertooth Motherboard)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty

Edited by FrankW - 22 Jun 2012 at 3:48pm
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  Quote shot Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 22 Jun 2012 at 5:24pm
I see the points on the case.  The Hailstorm corsair 800D is a nice looking case compared to the HafX but I can sacrifice some looks for usefulness.  I actually like the look of the syndicate but not sure how that case does?

Am I really going to see a difference in windows operation with the SSD compared to just having two Western Digital Drives?

Am I going to have to run triple GPU's for the monitor resolution of 2560 x 1600 at the highest game settings? 

As for the motherboard I have read plenty that the new X79 chipset 6 core will not really offer too many benefits over the 4 core but does have more cache.  Thoughts?  Is this mother board more future proof?

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And I want to hear (literally) thoughts on the integrated motherboard audio vs the sound card?
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I'm really restricted in what I can do this afternoon and evening.      Not at my pc and can' t do a cut and paste config or link.       But, the HafX case is the best. If you compare its 2x 200mm fans and front 230mm fan to other cases, especially the Hailstorm you' ll see why we always recommend it.      The X79 platform is a quad channel ram mobo for video editing, rendering and other apps that can utilize it for ram intense functions.   Gaming doesn't need it.    If you did stay with X79 for tri-sli then the 3820 cpu for $300 cheaper would do it.    As far as Frank's excellant suggestions, the tri-sli gtx680 is needed if you want to max out games like Metro2033 and Crysis Warfare.      Sli, 2x 680 would game on ultra in the 40 and 50 fps range at times.    Most games will play maxed out and stay 60fps but not some of the more demanding.   I can' t link right now but google Anandtech gpu bench, and plug in sli680 to see its performance.    I can do more tomorrow.
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  Quote Asangard Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 22 Jun 2012 at 6:02pm
Hi shot and welcome,
 
Here is the link that bprat22 was talking about.  http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/585
 
I already plugged in the GTX 680 sli for you.


Edited by Asangard - 22 Jun 2012 at 6:03pm
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Thanks Asangard.Big%20Smile 
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Originally posted by shot

I see the points on the case.  The Hailstorm corsair 800D is a nice looking case compared to the HafX but I can sacrifice some looks for usefulness.  I actually like the look of the syndicate but not sure how that case does?Am I really going to see a difference in windows operation with the SSD compared to just having two Western Digital Drives?Am I going to have to run triple GPU's for the monitor resolution of 2560 x 1600 at the highest game settings?  As for the motherboard I have read plenty that the new X79 chipset 6 core will not really offer too many benefits over the 4 core but does have more cache.  Thoughts?  Is this mother board more future proof?Thanks, Shot


1. The corsair and Intel SSDs are theoretically about three times faster than the Caviar Black. That said, you will only notice it when booting up, or when loading programs, so you likely will not notice a huge difference most of the time.

2. Whether or not you need three GPUs to run a game at that resolution will definitely depend on the game, but almost all would probably run fine with only two.

3. The X79 chipset was designed for video and photo editing. What Intel did was to remove all of the integrated graphics from the chip and use all of that space for normal processing. It will definitely future-proof it better than anything you could get with normal Sandy bridge, but you may want to go with the 3820, and then upgrade when Ivy Bridge E comes out.
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  Quote FrankW Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 23 Jun 2012 at 1:54pm
"This system will be used to surf the web and run games, but I want to be able to play the current games on the highest possible settings with the highest possible frames per seconds."

Hi Shot,

If your above statement is true then, yes you will need three GPUs to play all currant games at the highest possible FPS. But, if you don't play Metro 2033 or Crysis Warefare or will just be happy to turn down some setting on some games, you can play with SLI 680s with no problem. Study the Anandtech site with dual SLI 680s. If you are satisfied with the FPS on the games you play then you have your answer.

With the 2560 resolution I highly recommend the 680 4Gb card rather than the 2Gb card. The higher resolution takes advantage of more Vram.

For gaming there is little advantage with the 6-core CPUs but some just want it. If you go tri-SLI then the X79 is the way to go. One way to go is to get a system that will support Tri-SLI but only get dual SLI. If you are not satisfied with the dual SLI play then you can add the third GPU. Here is another build you might consider.

Frank

Configuration: 701790 Cost: $4025

Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master 942 HAF X
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 3820 3.6GHz (Turbo Mode up to 3.8GHz) (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS Rampage IV Extreme X79 (Intel X79 Chipset) (Features USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s)
System Memory: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1200W Corsair Pro Gold Series (CMPSU-1200AX) (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (180GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Model: 520 Series)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (Model: Black Edition)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: ASUS Blu-Ray Player/DVD Writer (Play Blu-Ray and Burn DVDs) (Model: BC-12B1ST)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 4GB (Includes PhysX)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex 240mm Radiator Liquid CPU Cooler (Extreme-Performance Edition)
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 1: Overclock CPU 4.0GHz to 4.4GHz
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Large)
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty


I think you asked about the on-board sound. Unless you are seriously into music or have a multi speaker sound system that will take advantage of a sound card, you don't need one. The sound is great for gaming in my opinion.

Frank

Edited by FrankW - 23 Jun 2012 at 2:02pm
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 23 Jun 2012 at 2:38pm
Nice.   As usual, Frank nailed it. His build gives you everything you need and nothing you don't plus expansion potential if needed.     
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  Quote shot Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 23 Jun 2012 at 10:36pm
I'm really contemplating the syndicate box.  It looks good to me.  Should have good airflow.
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