Aventum ii vs hailstorm iiPost Date: 2014-04-01 |
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trevor1030
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Topic: Aventum ii vs hailstorm ii Posted: 01 Apr 2014 at 6:10am |
Hey guys been looking into digital storm for quite some time ... All my friends went ------- but I wanna be different and feel like digital storm will not disappoint. Anyways down to configuration... Max budget was around 4-5k
I have wanted the aventum for quite some time now but I was wondering is it worth getting the aventum ii with the level one package for 4800-4900 vs the hailstorm ii 4000-4100? I've wanted to do liquid cooling to the CPU and GPU because of the looks and performance. I wanted to run 770s slip over clocked instead of 780s overclocked way more expensive that way if anyone wants to build some configs for me while I keep browsing it I would appreciate it. If this is all confusing I'm basically asking is it worth the aventum without copper cooling or hailstorm better idea ? Thanks again ! EDIT - Competitor Name Removed - Alex Edited by Alex - 01 Apr 2014 at 4:35pm |
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fstcvc
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Quote Reply Posted: 01 Apr 2014 at 8:09am |
Both cases with the same parts will perform nearly identical (if not 100% identical), the only difference will be the case and only you can decide whether or not a few hundred more dollars is worth spending on the case or should that money be spent on buying upgraded components (faster CPU, GPU, more storage, etc.). You won't be disappointed with either choice. The one thing to take into consideration is the direction the case will sit - the Hailstorm II has the window the left while the Aventum II has it on the right (when looking at the system from the front). For me, this was more of a deciding factor than anything as the placement of my system would have put the window facing the wall.
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bprat22
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Quote Reply Posted: 01 Apr 2014 at 8:47am |
I agree with fstcvc's assessment.
Money wise, the Hailstrom 2 will give you the best bang for your money. The Aventum is for those that want the best , and unavailable anywhere else, at any cost, especially for the level you'd be interested in. Either system works great. Edited by bprat22 - 01 Apr 2014 at 9:42am |
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Meller
DS Veteran Joined: 20 Feb 2013 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1627 |
Quote Reply Posted: 01 Apr 2014 at 11:32am |
While, I'm sure digital storm will partially hate us saying this, but FSTCVC is right in the comparison. Truth be told, if you fill the hailstorm up with dual 480mm rad's and dual 240mm rad's, you'll probably get slightly better cooling than the aventum. But we're talking a couple of degree's max.
The Aventum is for those who want a top of the line system with truly beautiful cosmetic appearances. How, as far as sound goes, I can't say which is quieter than the other, as I've never been around an Aventum. So really, if you really want the appearance of metal tubing, the aventum is the way to go. The hailstorm will give you identical performance, and the hailstorm will probably be 10x easier to perform maintenance on/add more hardware too should you choose to upgrade. |
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trevor1030
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Quote Reply Posted: 01 Apr 2014 at 3:37pm |
Yea I was either gonna do a liquid cooling setup some what for show but still have performance for example is it worth it to have CPU liquid cooling and chipset ? Or worth it to CPU chipset and 2x gpu? It would be a show computer but it can't lack performance. I do agree with you on the aventum it would make it face the other way on my desk I'd have to move stuff around... Decisions ...
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Meller
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Quote Reply Posted: 01 Apr 2014 at 3:44pm |
I, personally, cool everything in my PC. My CPU, 3x gpu's, my motherboard x2, and ram. It's a dual loop set up, with the GPU's on one loop, and everything else on the other. Ram doesn't have to be cooled, unless you start getting over the 2000mhz point. That's when you start to really get some heat. If you're filling your motherboard up with ram over 1600mhz (IE 100% filled the slots, or you're running 4 out of 8 slots on a 2011 or more) and you're overclocking your cpu... it's completely worth watercooling your motherboard's chipset and mosfets. It really depends on what hardware you're getting to determine what needs to be cooled.
Now if it's pure show. just water cool everything. If it's like 75% performance, 25% show. Just depends on hardware. Let me know what hardware and specs you're getting and I'll tell you (in my opinion) if it's truly worth spending the money to water cool it. |
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trevor1030
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Quote Reply Posted: 01 Apr 2014 at 4:07pm |
Here is my configuration... I was browsing other high end pc websites it seems the aventum ii and other configs near the same are like the same price but the aventum case seems like its 500$ or more it seems...
I guess that link didnt work... heres the config Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Black OPS Aventum II Exterior Finish: Onyx Black Matte Finish with Red Stand Trim Accents: - Not Available Processor: Intel Core i7 4770K 3.50 GHz (Unlocked CPU) (Quad Core) Motherboard: ASUS Z87-C (Intel Z87 Chipset) System Memory: 16GB DDR3 1866MHz Corsair Vengeance Pro (High-Performance) Power Supply: 850W Corsair RM Expansion Bay: - No Thanks Optical Drive: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 8x / CD-Writer 8x) (Slim Slot Loading Edition) Storage Set 1: 1x SSD (250GB Samsung 840 EVO) Storage Set 2: 1x Storage (1TB Western Digital - Black Edition) Storage Set 3: - No Thanks RAID Config: - No Thanks RAID Card: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Graphics Card(s): 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 3GB (Includes PhysX) Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio HPC Processor: - No Thanks Extreme Cooling: H20: HydroLux Level 3: Digital Storm Exotic Custom Cooling System (2x Video Cards + CPU + Chipset) H20 Tube Color: Red Tubing with High-Performance Fluid (UV Lighting Reactive) Chassis Fans: Standard Factory Chassis Fans Internal Lighting: Digital Storm RGB LED Lighting System (Requires Thermal Management Control Board & Software) Airflow Control: Digital Storm Thermal Management Control Board & Software (Backordered ETA Mid-April) Chassis Mods: - No Thanks Noise Reduction: - No Thanks LaserMark: - No Thanks CPU Boost: Stage 2: Overclock CPU 4.5GHz to 4.8GHz (Requires High-End Motherboard Selection) Graphics Boost: Yes, Overclock the video card(s) as much as possible with complete stability Memory Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory OS Boost: Yes, Disable and tweak all of the non-crucial services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows CD) Virus Protection: - No Thanks Edited by trevor1030 - 01 Apr 2014 at 4:14pm |
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ArkansasWoman777
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Quote Reply Posted: 01 Apr 2014 at 4:10pm |
The Aventumn case is built by DS, you can't find it anywhere else so thats why its higher |
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trevor1030
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Quote Reply Posted: 01 Apr 2014 at 4:15pm |
Have you seen one in person? Can they make it with the window on the left instead of window on right ? I would love to be able to see my pc components!
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ArkansasWoman777
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Quote Reply Posted: 01 Apr 2014 at 4:16pm |
I haven't seen it in person but i have seen pictures from people on here who bought them. As for the window part you'd have to ask DS |
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"Captain Sirius Black"
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Meller
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Quote Reply Posted: 01 Apr 2014 at 4:31pm |
Firstly, I highly doubt, you'll completely build you a custom one from ground up with a left side window instead of the right side.
Nextly, and this is just personal opinion, I don't understand why you're going so high end, and not going 2011. But on that note, if you're going Aventum, for pure appearance, I'd get the chipset cooled. But the fact that you're only running 16GB @ 1866mhz there is no real strain even with the 4.6ghz oc to cool the motherboard. We're looking a motherboard that will probably stay in the 30 degree's area. If you were filling all 4 slots with say 2133mhz or higher, then yes... just because the ram would be putting of a nice thing of heat, and that's a high oc on ram (technically anything over 1600mhz is an OC). The cooling is completely recommended for the cpu (obviously), and GPU's show real world performance gains when they run cooler. I realize that's kind of jumbled and confusing, so hopefully you can make sense of what I said. |
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Alex
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Quote Reply Posted: 01 Apr 2014 at 4:38pm |
@trevor1030,
Welcome to our community! We would love to have you as a customer. High-end systems are our specialty, so you're definitely going to get some awesome stuff, things like our HyroLux control software and hardware is an exclusive our engineers have made. Between the Hailstorm II and Aventum II, it's really the chassis. If you're spending $4k+, many customers simply want the best, which is why they go with the Aventum II due to the unique thermal design and better cooling options. Either way, you can't go wrong! |
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Meller
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Quote Reply Posted: 01 Apr 2014 at 4:46pm |
whoa whoa whoa, Alex. We got this. Don't come in here trying to steal our thunder.
Edited by Meller - 01 Apr 2014 at 4:53pm |
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Alex
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Quote Reply Posted: 01 Apr 2014 at 4:50pm |
. I know you guys do. Just wanted to say Hi to a potentially new customer.
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ArkansasWoman777
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Quote Reply Posted: 01 Apr 2014 at 4:51pm |
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Meller
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Quote Reply Posted: 01 Apr 2014 at 4:53pm |
Alex be trying to get in on my commission.
Speaking of which, Alex, I think it's time I start getting a commission. |
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ArkansasWoman777
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Quote Reply Posted: 01 Apr 2014 at 4:54pm |
Hey now, if you get a commission, all of us should get one |
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Alex
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Quote Reply Posted: 01 Apr 2014 at 5:14pm |
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trevor1030
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Quote Reply Posted: 01 Apr 2014 at 5:23pm |
So Alex the level one build of the aventum ii with just liquid cooling for cpu worth it ? Or would it be better since im plannign on running 2 780 or 770s to just liquid cool the chipset and gpus while im at it? Thanks again |
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Alex
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Quote Reply Posted: 01 Apr 2014 at 6:00pm |
If you're looking for the best bang for your buck, then the Hailstorm II might be more ideal based on those specs.
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trevor1030
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Quote Reply Posted: 02 Apr 2014 at 3:19pm |
We'll I guess my aventum days won't come true /: would it be worth it to get the hailstorm ii with 2 780s closed loop? Or would it be better to have the 2 770s overclocked with copper tubing and piping ?
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Nav
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Quote Reply Posted: 02 Apr 2014 at 3:23pm |
If you're going for performance, 2x GTX 780's in SLI will give you much better performance over 2x GTX 770s.
If you want looks, then copper tubing. |
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Alex
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Quote Reply Posted: 02 Apr 2014 at 3:40pm |
Exactly as Nav said. The Hailstorm II is ideal for budgets around $4K-$5K, the Aventum II really shines for budgets over $5K+.
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trevor1030
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Quote Reply Posted: 03 Apr 2014 at 5:11am |
I love the aventum though it is an amazing rig. I feel like the build i came up with is decent but if i hailstorm is better i suppose ill go that route... This is what i had for the aventum and what will probably be in the hailstorm 4770k ASUS Z87-C mobo 16gb 1866mhz ram 256gb SSD 1tb Secondary HDD 2x nvidia gtx 780 stage 3 hydro liquid cooling (CPU+GPU+Chipset) Overclock the CPU and GPU 850W PSU wanted to go with the aventum in white and black with the green tubing inside or even white for all white. But if i was going for hailstorm i would be doing red tubing and black case! looking forward to becoming a DS customer! |
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bprat22
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Quote Reply Posted: 03 Apr 2014 at 6:55am |
Hi trevor1030.... Its not that the Hailstorm 2 is a better case but just more economical for the same performance.
The Z87-C mobo doesn't allow sli. Change it to the Sabertooth, Expert to name a couple that do allow you to sli your 780's. Sabertooth, with top quality components, does have a 5 year warranty as compared to 3 years for most others. Hope this helps and stay in touch. |
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fstcvc
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Quote Reply Posted: 03 Apr 2014 at 9:45am |
I would also recommend upgrading the PSU to either the 1000W SilverStone or 1050W Corsair. The 850W might be okay but the extra overhead will keep your machine from possible power issues (especially with OC'ing the CPU & GPU's).
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