A viable configuration?Post Date: 2015-02-12 |
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Soulistice
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Topic: A viable configuration? Posted: 12 Feb 2015 at 5:00am |
So, I've been looking at a specific build for a few months now. It's a configured Apollo that looks ok on a technical standpoint:
Configuration Code: 1147604 My budget lies around $2000 to $3000 without shipping and tax. What I want from this computer is the ability to do a wide arrange of things with minimal performance loss. I'd like it to be able to play a wide variety of games as well as be able to edit and render videos with a good balance between reliability and speed. I'll be using it to play games such as Skyrim, Fallout:NV, Borderlands 2, PAYDAY 2 as well as recording, editing and rendering video and audio and hopes to do so with optimized graphics with minimal performance hits. Any advice, alternative builds and suggestions are appreciated. |
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bprat22
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Quote Reply Posted: 12 Feb 2015 at 7:28am |
Hi Soulistice.... Welcome to the forums. Looks like a good build to me.
Couple of things..... If you'll be doing a lot of editing or multitasking I'd consider the i7-4790k for its hyper-threading , meaning double the threads. Whether its worth the extra $130 is up to you and the budget. The I5-4690k will certainly get the job done. I would change your Seagate drives to the Western Digital Blacks for another $19 each. A more reliable drive with better warranty. The noise package I would change to the stage 1, if any at all. I don't see anywhere to add any sound deadening material that would matter. The side blow-hole.... Not a bad idea since a side fan blowing directly onto the video card is a nice feature but for a single card, not sure its needed, but for $50 is does give you better cooling. Not sure what I would do. You didn't mention the monitor's resolution you'll be gaming on, but if its a single 1080p then the gtx 970 is a great pick. Hope this helps and good luck. |
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Pacesetter
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Quote Reply Posted: 12 Feb 2015 at 7:34am |
I'd step up to the level 3 and drop the raid 0 config. With 2 1Tb HDDs you have the storage but with raid 0 it makes a virtual drive of the three drives (SDD and 2 HDDs) and is not fault tolerant, meaning if one drive fails you lose everything. I'd hate to lose 6 months or 5 years of work because the little SDD decided it's time to retire.
It would cost about $600 more but is still within your stated budget and you get so much more in the CPU and graphics that would be a lot better for what you will be doing. |
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Soulistice
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Quote Reply Posted: 12 Feb 2015 at 7:34am |
Thanks for the advice, bprat. It is a single 1080 display setup.
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Soulistice
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Quote Reply Posted: 12 Feb 2015 at 7:39am |
The config is already level 3, although I do see what you mean with droppign the RAID 0 setup.
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Pacesetter
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Quote Reply Posted: 12 Feb 2015 at 7:55am |
oops
I was going by the I5 cpu and didn't look for the level. The I7 4790k and GTX 980 would be a consideration. Bprat's suggestions are solid. ( as usual ) |
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Vanquish II Ultimate.
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Soulistice
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Quote Reply Posted: 12 Feb 2015 at 7:58am |
Thanks, Pace. I'll consider upgrading the CPU and Graphic card.
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FrankW
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Quote Reply Posted: 12 Feb 2015 at 9:35am |
Hi Soulistice,
I assume that noise is a consideration since you chose the noise suppression package. If noise is a problem you should move to the Slade case. You can get the side mounted fan in the Slade. Check out the level 3 that comes with the better CPU/GPU and within your budget. Keep in mind that when you add a side fan or radiator to the Slade you increase the noise. The case comes standard with sound proofing. The Slade case is the Obsidian Series 550D case. Frank Slade Case |
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michaeljhuman
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Quote Reply Posted: 12 Feb 2015 at 11:30am |
Ironically, Slade is the name of a hard rock band :)
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Soulistice
Newbie Joined: 12 Feb 2015 Online Status: Offline Posts: 11 |
Quote Reply Posted: 12 Feb 2015 at 11:38am |
Thanks for the case suggestion. The noise reduction is simply preference, though. I don't mind listening to a bit of purring from the fans.
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Soulistice
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Quote Reply Posted: 13 Feb 2015 at 12:17am |
So, I've edited the configurations with the tips you all gave me and I'd like you to see the results:
Configuration Code: 1148162 Specifications: Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Digital Storm Apollo Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish Processor: Intel Core i7 4790K 4.0 GHz (Codename Devils Canyon) (Unlocked CPU) (Quad Core) Motherboard: ASUS Z97-PRO (Intel Z97 Chipset) (Features 802.11ac Wi-Fi Connectivity) System Memory: 16GB DDR3 1866MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested) Power Supply: 750W EVGA SuperNOVA Expansion Bay: Internal Digital Media Card Reader (Black) Optical Drive: Blu-Ray & DVD Writer/Reader (Burn + Play Blu-Ray & DVDs) (12x BD-R) Storage Set 1: 1x SSD (128GB Samsung 850 PRO) Storage Set 2: 1x Storage (1TB Western Digital - Black Edition) Storage Set 3: 1x Storage (1TB Western Digital - Black Edition) RAID Config: RAID 1: Mirroring: Drive Failure Data Fault Tolerance Protection (Requires 2 HDDs) RAID Card: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Graphics Card(s): 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 4GB (EVGA ACX Cooler Edition) Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio HPC Processor: - No Thanks Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex 240mm Radiator Liquid CPU Cooler (Extreme-Performance Edition) H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected Chassis Fans: Upgrade All Fans to Corsair Airflow Performance Edition (Up to 6 Fans) Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Blue) Airflow Control: - No Thanks Chassis Mods: - No Thanks Noise Reduction: - No Thanks LaserMark: - No Thanks Boost Processor: Stage 1: Overclock CPU 4.0GHz to 4.4GHz Boost Graphics Card(s): - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (64-Bit Edition) Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows CD) Virus Protection: FREE: McAfee AntiVirus Plus (1 Year Service Activation Card) (Not Pre-installed) ($35 Value) Office: - No Thanks Game: - No Thanks Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: - No Thanks Mouse: - No Thanks Portable Gaming: - No Thanks Branded Gear: - No Thanks Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed Warranty: Life-time Expert Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty (3 Year Labor & 1 Year Part Replacement) |
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Quote Reply Posted: 13 Feb 2015 at 1:01am |
Looks good to me...the only changes I would make is to bump the SSD up to 256GB (utilizes all of the NAND channels on the controller, giving you higher performance as well as additional space for programs) and perhaps changing from the H100 to H100i (more than just Corsair Link was changed). If you do prefer a quieter computer, you can change the case to the 550D and go for the 120mm cooler instead.
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Pacesetter
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Quote Reply Posted: 13 Feb 2015 at 1:17am |
Are you looking for the two 1Tb HDDs to be duplicates of each other so if one fails you still have everything on the other and they are fault tolerant? The 2 Hdds would be a mirror image.
RAID 0 RAID 0 is not a true RAID as there is no redundancy with RAID 0. RAID 0 is typically referred to as a performance RAID as it takes all of your data and stripes it across two drives. The idea behind this RAID is that with two drives actively accessing all of your data it could theoretically be accessed twice as fast. Statistically this is not accurate, though performance is increased. Advantages ◦Faster load times/speed increase ◦Uses the capacity of both disks Disadvantages ◦No redundancy - one drive fails all data is lost RAID 1 RAID 1 is most commonly referred to as a mirrored RAID. RAID 1 takes all of your data and duplicates it exactly between the two drives in a RAID. Should one drive fail within the RAID 1 setup the other drive will take over as the primary drive without any data loss. The failed drive can then be replaced and the RAID array rebuilt in order to re-establish the mirror between the two drives. Advantages ◦Data Redundancy ◦One drive fails the other keeps going Disadvantages ◦Requires 2 hard drives of equal capacity only If this is what you want, you are set. If not I'd consider making a "virtual drive" by partitioning the HDD and creating the virtual drive and just drop the raid array. The build looks good to me and will be good for what you said you want it for. |
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Quote Reply Posted: 13 Feb 2015 at 1:25am |
With a good RAID controller, it will do a striped read and mirrored write to get the same read performance gains as a RAID 0. I haven't looked to deeply into the RAID controller on the Z97 PCH so I'm not positive if it does this (I hope it does, the only reason I can think of why Intel wouldn't include this is if there was a significant increase in the number of ALUs to allow for this and resulted in a larger piece of silicon making it more costly).
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Soulistice
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Quote Reply Posted: 13 Feb 2015 at 3:05am |
I am indeed looking for the mirror drive setup, Pace. I'd hate to lose programs and big games which takes forever to download, as well as capture data. I already utilize 1TB of space and find it sufficient.
Thanks for the extra info on the 100i, . I didn't know the real differences between the pumps. However, the SSD is mostly to boost boot time for windows and core programs like web browsers and the steam client itself. |
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Soulistice
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Quote Reply Posted: 13 Feb 2015 at 3:13am |
Forgot to mention, the 240mm CPu cooler is mostly to be more safe than sorry with a overclocked CPU which WILL go through some stress at some point in this computer's life.
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Soulistice
Newbie Joined: 12 Feb 2015 Online Status: Offline Posts: 11 |
Quote Reply Posted: 14 Feb 2015 at 2:37am |
Also, I know the Apollo is an Corsair case, but I forgot which. Would anyone care to remind me?
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bprat22
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Quote Reply Posted: 14 Feb 2015 at 2:42am |
Corsair 760t.
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Soulistice
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Quote Reply Posted: 14 Feb 2015 at 2:54am |
Thanks, bp.
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bprat22
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Quote Reply Posted: 14 Feb 2015 at 2:58am |
My pleasure.
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