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    Posted: 08 Jun 2012 at 2:03pm
I would like some advice on a new gamming pc,it will be used al most 100% for flight simulation,rise of flight,DC warthog,FSX accel.I was reading the article[buying and posting guide] and saw this configuration and thought this could be what i want,but would like some professional opinions.would 6gb of ram be enough?I just want something that will give me good fps and a good chance to catch my opponent and shoot him down.The price is about my limit. Ibought a new pc from digital storm 4 or 5 years ago ihave had no problems with it at all but would like to have an up grade.
any advice would be appreciated
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olekrow[81 years old]Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 950 3.06GHz (Quad Core)
Motherboard: EVGA X58 SLI 3 Edition (USB 3.0 & SATA 6Gb/s) (Model: 131-GT-E767)
System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1000W Digital Storm Certified (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition Highly Recommended)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (500GB Western Digital/Seagate/Hitachi/Samsung (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 1.2GB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Creative Labs Sound Blaster Recon3D Fatal1ty Professional <b></b>
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 1: Noctua NH-U12P SE Dual 120mm Fans High Performance Cooler
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: FREE: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz (Cooling Upgrade Recommended)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
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External Storage: - No Thanks
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 08 Jun 2012 at 2:34pm
Hi olekrow....   Alot of those parts in the build you posted aren't carried by DS anymore.  You didn't mention budget or the monitor and resolution you'll be using.
 
I would suggest looking at the Special Ops section, Dreadnought level 2 and going from there like adding  a second gtx 670 for sli for maxed out gaming on a 23" monitor at 1920x1080 resolution.  That would put you close to the build you posted, I believe.
 
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  Quote FrankW Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Jun 2012 at 8:54am
Hi olekrow,

Even us old guys need to have a good computer.

What is your budget?

Frank

Edited by FrankW - 09 Jun 2012 at 8:54am
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  Quote olekrow Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Jun 2012 at 11:26am
Thank you for your quick responce
I checked out the Dreadnaught level 2, this is what i decided on its a little more money than i wanted to spend, but i want a good machine.i went with air rather than liquid cooling.Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master 942 HAF X
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 3770K 3.50 GHz (Unlocked CPU) (Quad Core) (Requires Z77 Motherboard)
Motherboard: ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77 (Intel Z77 Chipset) (Features Thermal Armor and Thermal Radar)
System Memory: 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 800W Corsair GS (Dual SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (1TB Western Digital/Seagate/Hitachi/Samsung (7200 RPM) (32MB Cache)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2GB (Includes PhysX) <b></b>
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Creative Labs Sound Blaster Recon3D Fatal1ty Professional <b></b>
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 Extreme Performance <b></b>
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 2: Overclock CPU 4.5GHz to 4.8GHz (Requires Pro/Deluxe/Sabertooth Motherboard)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Frank thank for your responce, something between $2000.and $2500is what i had in mind,this will be a little over $2700 but its really what i had in mind. what do you guys think.
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Jun 2012 at 12:01pm
That is a real nice build.Awesome
Going with the D14 air cooler instead of the 120mm Vortex was a great move.  Dependable and will cool better and quieter.
 
DCS A-10 Warthog will love this.  I'm waiting for Combined Arms.Drooling
  
Not sure if you grabbed your free t-shirt, but it is the most important part.Big%20Smile
 
Best of luck and happy gaming.  Keep us updated.  Big%20Smile


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  Quote olekrow Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Jun 2012 at 12:26pm
guys i forgot to mention my monitor is an Acer with max resolution of 1680x1050@60Hz is that ok?
ps this is the first time i have posted any thing [this is great]
thanks so much.
 
 
 
 
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Jun 2012 at 12:32pm
Those sli, gtx 670's are gonna smoke that monitor.  Strong
 
You can even move up to a 1920x1080 if you ever felt the need and be good to go.
 
 
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  Quote FrankW Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Jun 2012 at 2:00pm
That is a great build for your budget. You don't need the sound card unless you have a sound system set up to take advantage of it. Sooner or later you will want to move up to a better monitor and your are good to go for that.

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  Quote olekrow Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Jun 2012 at 3:13pm
Hi again
I just checked DS monitors they have an acer 23in wide screen high performance gaming monitor that is 1920X 1080 for $179.00 i think i will get that and drop the sound card. I dont have any special sound system except a woofer.
im all ears for your coments
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  Quote olekrow Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Jun 2012 at 3:16pm
All eyes i schould have said thanks all
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If you want to step up to a real nice 23" 1920x1080 monitor check out the Dell UltraSharp U2312HM.   Its a IPS monitor with great color and cllarity. I and many of the forum members have it .    They are more money, I think like$250 on sale, so wait for sale which Dell has pretty regularly.    Your bombing runs and SAM supprrssion missions will take on a whole new dimension. Hope this helps.   

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  Quote olekrow Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Jun 2012 at 4:35pm
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thank you so much i really appreciate your input
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  Quote olekrow Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Jun 2012 at 5:59pm
Gentelmen:
 
Im back i have cut back a little so i can afford to get a dell  U2412HM,i droped one gtx 670 and got little better memory would like your opinion, i wanted to keep things so i could add another gtx 670 latter if i wSpecifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master 942 HAF X
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 3770K 3.50 GHz (Unlocked CPU) (Quad Core) (Requires Z77 Motherboard)
Motherboard: ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77 (Intel Z77 Chipset) (Features Thermal Armor and Thermal Radar)
System Memory: 8GB DDR3 2000MHz GTX-8 Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) <b></b>
Power Supply: 1000W Digital Storm Certified (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition Highly Recommended) <b></b>
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (1TB Western Digital/Seagate/Hitachi/Samsung (7200 RPM) (32MB Cache)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2GB (Includes PhysX)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 Extreme Performance <b></b>
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Green) <b></b>
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 2: Overclock CPU 4.5GHz to 4.8GHz (Requires Pro/Deluxe/Sabertooth Motherboard)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No ThanksSpecifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master 942 HAF X
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 3770K 3.50 GHz (Unlocked CPU) (Quad Core) (Requires Z77 Motherboard)
Motherboard: ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77 (Intel Z77 Chipset) (Features Thermal Armor and Thermal Radar)
System Memory: 8GB DDR3 2000MHz GTX-8 Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) <b></b>
Power Supply: 1000W Digital Storm Certified (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition Highly Recommended) <b></b>
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (1TB Western Digital/Seagate/Hitachi/Samsung (7200 RPM) (32MB Cache)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2GB (Includes PhysX)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 Extreme Performance <b></b>
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Green) <b></b>
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 2: Overclock CPU 4.5GHz to 4.8GHz (Requires Pro/Deluxe/Sabertooth Motherboard)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
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Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warrantyanted. what do you think?
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PS  I think i screwed up when i sent this post sorry

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  Quote FrankW Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 6:15am
Hi olekrow,

You still have some problems. I don't want to beat a dead horse but if you would give us your budget for just the computer we can post a build for you.

For instance, you didn't select better memory, you selected more expensive memory. Get the DS 1600 certified memory.

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  Quote olekrow Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 7:18am
Frank
Im sorry i guess i have not approach this in the right way my budget for the 
computer would be somewhere between $2000.00 and $2700.00,but thought i would like to get another monitor ,was thinking about the dell U2412M,i now have  an  acerX223W with max resolution of 1680x1050@60HZ would it be necessary to get another for the new computer? if i were to buy a monitor then i would have to take around $300.00 from that budget. this is a lot of money for me to spend on a computer but i would like one i could max out my simulations on.I am open to any and all suggestions sorry for all the confusion.
 
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 7:31am
Until Frank gets back to ya, have you checked out the ODE v2 level 4?  It is $2499 and for your budget is impossible to beat.  It has a SSD, HDD, blu-ray player and most importantly, a sli, 2x gtx 670 that will max out gaming on a 24" at 1920x1200 res. monitor.
 
DS does price these things to move and does a great job. 
 
Don't worry about confusion.  We've all been there and it does take time to get the best for the money.  Lots of stuff to pick from.
 
Check it out and good luck.Big%20Smile


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Hi olekrow,

Well lucky for you bprat22 stopped by with his suggestion. I hadn't looked at the ODE v2 for a while and that is as good as you are going to get for your budget. A custom build would give you some upgrades in individual components but no better performance for your budget.

Frank

Here is the ODE v2 Levl 4 for your review. Just make sure you order your Free T-Shirt. Cost: $2499

If I was buying a budget gaming machine today this is what I would buy.

Frank

Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Pre-built Digital Storm ODE V2 - Level 4
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 3770K 3.50 GHz (Unlocked CPU) (Quad Core) (Requires Z77 Motherboard)
Motherboard: ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77 (Intel Z77 Chipset) (Features Thermal Armor and Thermal Radar)
System Memory: 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series
Power Supply: 800W Corsair GS (Dual SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (120GB Solid State (By: Corsair) (Model: Force GT Series CSSD-F120GBGT-BK) (SATA 6Gbps)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital/Seagate/Hitachi/Samsung (7200 RPM) (32MB Cache)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: Blu-Ray Player/DVD Writer (Play Blu-Ray and Burn DVDs)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2GB (Includes PhysX)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex 240mm Radiator Liquid CPU Cooler (Extreme-Performance Edition)
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Red)
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 2: Overclock CPU 4.5GHz to 4.8GHz
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty

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  Quote FrankW Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 9:00am
olekrow, The Dell 24" is a fine monitor but I don't see it with your budget. I would drop back to the Dell 2312HM. Not a big difference in screen size but will save some money.

If I had to choose between a better computer and use my old monitor, or a lessor computer and a new monitor, I would take the better computer. Monitors are relatively inexpensive compared to the computer. If you buy a lessor computer you are stuck with your choice for a long time. If you stick with your old monitor then eventually you can pick up a new monitor with out a big hit.

There is always the choice of getting a system with one GPU and add a new one later as you mentioned. A second GPU would cost more than a Dell 2312HM monitor. So why not have the power to start with and get a new monitor later.

This all comes down to your preferences and you should do what ever you feel is best for you. The choices are up to you.

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  Quote olekrow Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 11:40am
Gentlemen:
I thank you for your input i really do appreciate it, i am lost when it comes to building a computer.The ODE V 2 level 4 looks good to me. one question about the liquid cooler could there be a problem the liquid leaking out?
I probably wont have the money to buy the computer for a month, how long would this price hold.? or maybe thats a question you cant answer.
 
bprat 22,Frank
 
thank you very much for your help i really do appreciate it.
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 11:52am
The Vortex 240mm cooler is about the same as the Corsair H100 cooler if you want to google it and see what's up with it.  It is a very good unit and a sealed unit, unlike true water cooling.  No maintenance and the chance of a leak is pretty slim.  The fiuld inside is non-conductive, distilled water. 
The ODE changes on occasion, both in price and parts, depending on new products just coming to market and other factors in- house.  ODE is one of those pre builts, that if you see what ya like, then go for it, because ya never know.
 
DS does try to accomodate when changes are made, sometimes allowing configs just changed to be purchased for awhile.  They work hard to make customers happy.   No gaurantees though.
 
Here's a link reviewing the H100.    http://www.guru3d.com/article/corsair-h100-review/1
 


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  Quote olekrow Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 23 Aug 2012 at 6:27pm
bprat 22/Frank W
 
just a line to let you know i ordered the ODE V2 level 4 computer and its on its way!
now i need a better monitor to get the best out of it but that will have to wait till another day.
Thank for your input it is appreciated
 
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 24 Aug 2012 at 5:44am
Awesome selection. Awesome 
 
Congrats and keep us posted if you can.  Big%20Smile
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