Ultimate Spec Needed - Wow, Dual Boxing, GW2, etc.

no limit eh ? 

http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=58&t=16688&hilit=world+of+warcraft


Edited by Kinesis - 31 Dec 2009 at 1:41pm

Mr K

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1. the 5970 can run 2 monitors. it can do Eyefinity also.

2. what do you consider major upgrade? to us that would be a mobo or cpu change. Ram,gpu,HDDs are not major upgrades. only upgrade I might see you do here is maybe adding another 5970 should you need extra power, that is a 2 minute job and not major at all. Problem here is that I'm not sure what kind of a gpu power you need to run 2 instances of wow at the same time on 2 different monitors with a res of 1900 x 1200 each, so I'm thinking the 5970 has you covered.



3. well sometime in 2010 we should get real usb 3.0 and sata 3.0 but that is not for gaming so much, but there is always something around the corner that is better.

4. I'm not a big monitor expert but I have learned that when buying a monitor look for a monitor that has the same Viewing Angle, both vertical and horizontal, and is at or above 170°, this is a sign of a quality panel on a monitor, assuring great picture quality. having said that the Dell UltraSharp U2410 seems to be a good 24" to get.

5. keyboard and mouse I'm not great at either, search the forum and you will find many recommendations in the general section and hardware section.

Edited by DST4ME - 31 Dec 2009 at 5:55pm

1. yes the 2 x 5970 is what I'm talking about, but after further thought, I'm thinking 2 x 5870 is better for you, it should give you better fps also, basically 3 x 5870 gives better performance then 2 x 5970, right now you can go with 2 and if some how you see you need more power down the road, just drop in a third one at that time, its real easy, I can show your 12 year old cousin to do it .

2. nothing needs to be changed, if you decide to go with 1 x 5970 then when you are ready you just drop in the second one. you will simply use 2 power connectors that are there already and connect them to the gpu and then place the gpu in the pci slot, you are done. If you decide to go wtih 2 x 5870 now and then down the road you wanna drop in a third one, its the same as 5970, just connect the power cables and drop in pci slot, done.

then you just reboot and install drivers, which if you have ever done is no different then installing a game or an app.

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just keep in mind that I'm just a member and don't work for DS nor am I affiliated in anyway, I was just so impressed with their customer service and quality that I decided to stick around and help others that want a DS system

in case you want the change to 2 x 5870 done for you here it is, its the save as above, the only difference is the gpu:

Here you go Ticket# 369715 --- Price: $3604 (To see this build click here) Price after current promotion $3604

Copy of Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Not Available
Trim Accents: - Not Available
Processor: Intel Core i7 920 2.66GHz (Quad Core)
Motherboard: EVGA X58 3X SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports Triple SLI or CrossFire)
System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1000W Corsair (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - Not Available
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (256GB Solid State (By: Corsair) (Model: CMFSSD-256GBG2D)
Set 1 Raid Options: - Not Available
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 22x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 2x CrossFire Dual (ATI Radeon HD 5870 1GB)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 1: Noctua Dual 120mm Fans High Performance Cooler (Compatible With ONLY i7 Processors)
H20 Tube Color:- Not Available
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Red)
Enhancements: - Not Available
Chassis Mods: - Not Available
Noise Reduction: - Not Available
Boost Processor: FREE: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz (Requires Air Cooling Upgrade)
Boost Video Card: - Not Available
Boost Memory: - Not Available
Boost OS: - Not Available
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional (64-Bit Edition)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Virus Protection: - Not Available
Office: - Not Available
Benchmarking: - Not Available
Install/Test Game: - Not Available
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Large)
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-10 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: !PROMO BUNDLE: 4 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty (Highly Recommended)

Edited by DST4ME - 31 Dec 2009 at 7:32pm

IF I were you, what I would do is figure out if I need 1 x 5870 to get 60 fps to run dual boxing or 2 x 5870, and I'm sure that the wow forums or http://www.dual-boxing.com you can find the answer, if the answer is 1 x 5870 then I would go with that, if its 2 x 5870 or 3 x 5870 then I would go with that.

I doubt you will need 3 x 5870, I'm not 100% sure you even need 2 to be honest.

the config is from a budget build so 3 x 5870 is not an option, you will have to call them and as how much it would be to add a third to that build, the only other way to do this would be to go to blackops but over there prices are higher for everything, I just priced a duplicate config and it came out to be few hundred more, not sure why.

Edited by DST4ME - 01 Jan 2010 at 3:07am

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ok let me explain

5970 = almost 2 x 5870 but card is in internal cf.

since 5970 is more powerful you would expect that 2 x 5970 should beat 3 x 5870, but it does not work out like that, scaling in quad fire is not as good as tri fire, so 3 x 5870 does better then 2 x 5970.

now 2 x 5870 will do bettter then 1 x 5970 so if you need that much power, the 2 x 5870 is a better choice.

now none of that matters if you don't see the performance difference, for example far cry2 with high settings and 8x aa at 1900 x 1200, you could not tell if the system has 1 x 5870 or 2 x 5870 cause 1 x 5870 will give you 50 to 60 fps, so you get smooth gaming for average of the game if not the whole game. so for this instance 1 x 5870 will do.

now what I'm saying is that find out what you need to get 60 fps with dual boxing and whatever that is go with that, I'm guessing its 2 x 5870 or around that range.

hey where can u get diablo III i have been going nuts looking for it for many years

1 the ssd should be on hdd1 which is the set with the os on it. there you wil see its performance the msot.

2 personal preference... me i would put only my most used and most demanding games on it everything that i do not really care about like music, movies, pictures, less played games, older games that wont see the benefit, ect i would put on hdd2

3 personal preference again each game is roughly 10gb.. so at a total 756gb thats roughly 75 games. you can always add more hard drives

Thx Raif!

dang it! it looks good so far why is blizz waiting over 10 years to release the thirs at least they still support diablo II

DST4ME - if I decided to go with the DELL Ultra Sharp 30" as my main monitor (probably something smaller for my 2nd monitor), is 2 x 5870s still the best choice for GPUs?

Because they are Blizzard and they prefer to wait till its done. There will be patches no doubt, but at least it will be 'playable" off the shelf when it arrives. Thats what killed Hellgate London (HGL)  EA rushed them and they had to put out a buggy game. To bad EA screwed up such a good game.

If I went with 3 x 5870, would the spec on page 1 (with 2 x 5870s) still work with no additional items?

Originally posted by Damon If I went with 3 x 5870, would the spec on page 1 (with 2 x 5870s) still work with no additional items?

OK almost ready to order.

Here you go Ticket# 370949 --- Price: $3946 (To see this build click here) Price after current promotion $3646

Copy of Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Not Available
Trim Accents: - Not Available
Processor: Intel Core i7 920 2.66GHz (Quad Core)
Motherboard: EVGA X58 3X SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports Triple SLI or CrossFire)
System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1000W Corsair (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - Not Available
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (256GB Solid State (By: Corsair) (Model: CMFSSD-256GBG2D)
Set 1 Raid Options: - Not Available
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Seagate/Western Digital (7200 RPM) (32MB Cache) (SATA) (Extreme Speed)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: 1x (1TB Seagate/Western Digital (7200 RPM) (32MB Cache) (SATA) (Extreme Speed)
Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 22x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 2x CrossFire Dual (ATI Radeon HD 5870 1GB)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 1: Noctua Dual 120mm Fans High Performance Cooler (Compatible With ONLY i7 Processors)
H20 Tube Color:- Not Available
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Red)
Enhancements: - Not Available
Chassis Mods: - Not Available
Noise Reduction: - Not Available
Boost Processor: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz (Requires Air Cooling Upgrade)
Boost Video Card: - Not Available
Boost Memory: - Not Available
Boost OS: - Not Available
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional (64-Bit Edition)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Virus Protection: - Not Available
Office: - Not Available
Benchmarking: - Not Available
Install/Test Game: - Not Available
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-10 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: 4 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty (Highly Recommended)

now if the third drive is for big larg files then the 1TB, if there is not that much stuff then 500GB.

if you are looking to backup your os drive (use my clone guide) and you need an external drive for that.

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if you need a HDD3 for storage then obviously HDD2 is not big enough, so I change the 500GB to 1TB seeing how it sounds like you need the room, the 1TB is a bit faster, but once you get it filled up to 75% you will notice performance drop, but that goes for all drives.

Edited by DST4ME - 05 Jan 2010 at 7:54pm

thats my mistake, that was from the budget builds, they don't have the corrunt promotion on them, the blackops do, and if I go over there it will be even more expensive.

I'm so sorry, I know you got the $3646 in your head as a price because of my mistake, I'm really sorry about that, I hope its not a huge disapointment.

if that is out of the budget, we can drop the ssd, and go with a 1TB HDD right now, and then down the road you can add a ssd and push the 1TB HDD to HDD2 as we have it now.

to move all your os/data from the 1TB HDD to the ssd you can follow my clone guide here, that way you don't have to reinstall anything.