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  Quote Costone Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Topic: Superman Needs a Facelift
    Posted: 15 Mar 2014 at 2:30pm


Interested in opinions by my trustworthy forum gang. Was pricing a new Aventum II but want to see how much power plant I can still stuff into my legacy Silverstone TJ09 build as an upgrade option. Would hate to waste the spacious case and its great airflow despite the wonderfully advanced Aventum II case.

Here’s my old rig (2008 build) for triple monitors:

Digital Storm 950Si –
MB: nVidia 790i
Chip: QX9770
RAM: 16MB 1600MHz
GPU: 3x GTX 280 in SLI
Cooling: Dual Loop H20 (cards and chip) w/3 rads


Here’s a link to my old DS review w/pics:
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My first upgrade option is to gut out the MB, GPUs and dual loop system and upgrade the case with:

MB: ASUS Rampage IV Black Edition X79
Chip: Intel i7 4960X 3.6GHz
RAM: 32GB DDR3 1866MHz
GPU: 3x GTX 780 TI 3GB in SLI
Cooling: Option A) Hydrolux Level 4 H2O or Option B) Copper



Components to upgrade would cost just about $4K + the cost of the DS cooling mod install.

Otherwise a new Aventum II tricked out – easily about $8.5K base.

Can the TJ09 handle the airflow with all the new firepower?

Thanks.




Edited by Costone - 15 Mar 2014 at 5:56pm
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Mar 2014 at 4:09pm
Hi Costone.... As long as the case can fit the Rads and their fans, and I see no problem, you should have no cooling issues.

Looks like a dynamite rig in the works.

Now to find out the cost to mount all those goodies in your case.

Let us know.
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  Quote Nav Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Mar 2014 at 4:15pm
Oh man! I remember seeing this beast being built a couple years back. Glad to see it's still going strong !
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  Quote surf71zx Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 Mar 2014 at 4:40am
Very nice systemAwesome
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  Quote danjw1 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 Mar 2014 at 9:45am
You really don't need a whole new cooling system. If you want to upgrade radiators and pump, then that maybe the best option. Otherwise, you could just upgrade the waterblocks.
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  Quote Costone Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 17 Mar 2014 at 11:55am
Excellent call danjw1!

Makes sense to keep the dual loop system. It's still in great condition and performing flawlessly thanks to good maintenance and an excellent build by DS. I'm a decent surgeon so I decided to do the build DIY instead of dealing with the shipping cost from the east coast (which in itself would cost close to another GPU).

Just ordered three Koolance waterblocks and one of those badge EVGA SLI bridges along with the other upgrade components. I'll definitely post pics when it's under construction in about 10 days or so.

Thanks again guys for the great feedback! Looking forward to posting the new performance specs.

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  Quote Socks223 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Mar 2014 at 12:06pm
I don't know of a better ad for DS than this.  Guy buys a ginormously expensive and high-tuned system in 2008, and he's back 5 years later happy as a claim and looking to upgrade (even if DIY).  Gives me a lot of confidence buying my own puny little system that this guy's sytem's shipping box would sneer at!
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  Quote Socks223 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Mar 2014 at 12:06pm
I meant happy as a clam, of course.
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Originally posted by Socks223

I meant happy as a clam, of course.



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  Quote Socks223 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Mar 2014 at 12:28pm
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  Quote Costone Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Mar 2014 at 3:55pm
Very true Socks223! I have nothing but admiration and high praise for the DS crew (and their outstanding Support team as in my case). I feel like an Indy driver with a totally reliable car, and the best on-call pit crew at the ready. I admit I was a bit nervous at first giving that much trust and cold lettuce to a custom builder that I wasn't all that familiar with at the time. But like you, I got excited when I saw that their build work was immaculate and I knew that I was buying top-shelf quality. Plus the intricate system shipped cross-country without a hitch or scratch...!

So when you invest in such a solid, well-built rig (regardless of your system price) it buys you years of reliable upgrade performance where other builders fall short. In 2008 I wanted and knew that going in....and now five years later I know that I will continue get a lot of life out of this rig even if I get another system. Totally impressed!


Ok. I think I earned a Tee shirt now...this commercial is over


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  Quote Snaike Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Mar 2014 at 1:13am
Originally posted by Costone

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Ok. I think I earned a Tee shirt now...this commercial is over
lol.. or stock options!
 
(Brilliant summation of your experience, though... thank you for sharing it.)
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  Quote Costone Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Mar 2014 at 1:47pm
Anticipation...

Those of you who have ever ordered a custom rig or components know all too well that the absolute best and worst part is surviving the wait. I’ll have to stare at these pups until my MB and waterblocks come in by mid next week in order to start my upgrade.

Beautiful sight though...



Just in today (Thu. 3/20). Deliveries moving along swiftly...love it!


(Sat. 3/22) The fresh blood plasma has arrived (3x 700ml) with two new Swiftech reservoirs to supply the heart...


(Tue. 3/25) Finally! The three ice cold waterblocks delivered. Time to schedule the operation...


My upgrade checklist so far (updated):

3x GTX 780Ti
EVGA 780Ti SLI Bridge
IC i7 4960X chipset
ASUS Rampage IV Black Edition X79
Koolance GTX 780Ti Waterblocks
Koolance CPU Waterblock
Fresh 3x Koolance L/C and two Swiftech reservoirs
20ft. of PrimoFlex clear tubing (1/2" ID x 5/8" OD) with (16) 5/8" hose clamps



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  Quote Costone Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 22 Mar 2014 at 10:39am
Almost there....                Zzzz Zzzz..    

Edited by Costone - 22 Mar 2014 at 10:42am
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  Quote Costone Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Mar 2014 at 3:56pm
Finally! Ready to start the build upgrade...    
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  Quote davidalberd Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 Apr 2014 at 3:00am
I am a big fan of superman and i have watched it's all movies even it's all cartoons too and i really like his look so i got his jacket to look like superman.
http://goo.gl/58hCWk


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  Quote retirednavysnipe Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 Apr 2014 at 5:50am
Been following this thread and am anxiously awaiting seeing your updated Superman.

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  Quote fstcvc Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 Apr 2014 at 8:22am
Has Superman 2.0 taken flight yet??
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  Quote Costone Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 Apr 2014 at 8:05pm
Tales from the OR

Yes Superman is airborne fstcvc! Sorry guys for the long delay. Gonna put up a review with pics and temps later this week and move this post over to the review forum.

Delighted to say that the upgrade surgery went flawlessly. I thought of video recording the build but since it was my first upgrade on a dual loop system I didn’t want the distraction.

Here’s a teaser shot of the rig with the three cards on air before I cracked them for waterblocks last night:


The CPU loop is active and the GPU loop is bypassed until the waterblock assembly is popped in. I'm keeping the classic look with the clear tubing and colored fluid for now.

So currently, Superman is back under anesthesia at the moment awaiting two adjustable vid connectors (the original fixed-height post connectors (designed for the old 280 waterblocks) were slightly too tall by about 1/8” and spread the waterblock plates too far apart for the SLI bridge to fit properly! Then it’s down to some focused cable management, interior lighting and tightening up the dual loops. Might do quick connects at a later time...


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  Quote Costone Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 Apr 2014 at 10:38am
SUPERMAN....IS BACK!



Stronger than ever...


Will post my full review in the Customer Review section soon. Was a fun upgrade to my DS build. Thanks to everyone for their exceptional config input.


                                                 
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 Apr 2014 at 11:02am
That is a nice looking rig.  Drooling   And lots of ' teeth'.  Strong
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  Quote Counsel Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 Apr 2014 at 11:23am
Superman is an appropriate name - that rig packs one hell of a punch!

Any plans on how you're going to put it to the test? Surround-screen gaming? 4K? Per Digital Storm's benchmarks your setup should handle Ultra settings at 4K!

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  Quote Costone Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 Apr 2014 at 3:38pm
Thanks guys. Yeah I'm also planning on 4K but right now this is my current setup:






Two Dell 24" at 1600 and middle 30" at 2560. I'm building out an acoustic space in the attic designed around the system with it's own dedicated A/C to help temper the summer months. I do mostly flight simulators, gaming, and also some very intense 3D construction modeling and geospatial stuff..

Right now: Busy loading Titanfall and a bunch of other game titles, drivers, etc. before my review. Really loving the ASUS OC panel which I parked into my top 5 1/4" bay.

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Nice setup, i like
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Nice HOTAS. I also have TrackIR.    
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  Quote Costone Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 Apr 2014 at 4:05pm
Originally posted by ArkansasWoman777

Nice setup, i like

Thanks AW777!

Only thing left at this point is updating the G15 keyboard and also a new Razer gaming mouse. And mixing a redder-looking fluid in the CPU loop with Feser One. Nothing against that unexpected pink UV but hey.... it's Superman...

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Nice HOTAS. I also have TrackIR.    

Interested in seeing the difference in performance from IR4 to IR5 bprat22. Supposed to be higher res and a smoother FOV. I thought IR4 was pretty good.
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  Quote Costone Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Apr 2014 at 9:10am
Just a note that I posted my full review here:
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