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  Quote Vizo Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Topic: **REVIEW** Considering ODE 4, but is it necessary?
    Posted: 11 Jul 2012 at 11:34am
Budget:
Anywhere from $1,200 to $2,500....if it can be justified

Expectations:
Decent computer that will last me at least 3 years, with moderate daily usage

Usage:
Will be used primarily for gaming, but nothing crazy. Mostly games like World of Warcraft, Diablo. Will also watch the occasional movie on it, use the web / email. Potential to fraps the referenced games.

Special Needs:
I would like a SSD in addition to a normal HD. Bluray welcome, but not necessary.

Specifications:
I have a 23" LCD. Off chance I could potentially get a second monitor of same size.

My question is, with the above uses, would an ODE 4 be overkill for my needs? Would an ODE 3/2/1 do just as well?

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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 11 Jul 2012 at 11:51am
Hi Vizo....Welcome to the forums. 
For the monitor which i assume is 1920x1080 and those games, the ODE 3 with single gtx 680 will do it just fine.  If you want to game on multple monitors then the ODE 4 with sli gtx 670 would be my call, plus with lvl 3 and lvl 4 you get the SSD and blu-ray player and a better cpu cooler. 
 
When you say 'nothing crazy' Big%20Smile  then that would mean high settings on the most intense games would be ok I am guessing.  IF you wanted to play games like BF3, Crysis warhead and others maxed out then the ODE 4 for single monitor would be ideal. 
 
Hope this helps and good luck.Big%20Smile


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  Quote Teemberland Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Jul 2012 at 6:53am
I was on the same boat as you Vizo. I thought about getting ODE LVL 2 prior to my purchase. But let me tell you this, I would've regretted that decision. What I end up getting is ODE LVL 4. You can't really go wrong with it.
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  Quote ablahblah Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Jul 2012 at 9:46am
ODE 3, SLI for a 1920x1080 monitor (I'm assuming here) is a bit overpowered.
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  Quote Vizo Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Jul 2012 at 6:27am
Thank you for your opinions everyone. I had a few more questions now between the ODE 3 vs. the ODE 4.

1) What is the main difference between the motherboards? Just the "thermal armor?"

2) Difference between the "performance" and the "vengeance" series ram?

3) Obviously, it seems like the biggest difference between the two is the vid cards. Are there any benchmark comparisons out there?

I guess what I'm getting at is, even though the ode 4 may be a bit overpowered for my needs right now, is the value add enough to justify spending the extra $400?
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Jul 2012 at 6:41am
The ODE 3's mobo does not support sli, 2x graphic cards, meaning you could never add a second Nvidia card.  The ODE 4's does plus the ODE 4's Sabertooth is made up of better parts and I believe a longer warranty.  3 yr vs 5 yr. 
 
Here's a link benching the 680 to sli 680.  The test site doesn't do sli 670.  The 680's have about the same performance as the 670 so the sli 680 is a bit better but very close.
 
 
The difference in the memory isn't anything you'd see.  Both are very good.
 
Hope this helps.Big%20Smile


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  Quote Vizo Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Jul 2012 at 10:51am
On the SSD, it doesnt seem like as if 120gb will be enough room once the OS is loaded a a couple games. Am I wrong on this? Also, are people aware of any issues with the corsair brand?

I had started configuring a dreadnaught with the 180gb Intel SSD, but I feel as if 16gb RAM is entirely to much and could not configure it to be lower. Sorry for the naivety, but am I missing something?
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Start with the Dreadnought, level 2.  The level 3 is the quad channel ram X79 motherboard that requires 4x 4GB ram to fill 4 memory slots.  The Z77 is dual channel and can use 2x 4GB.
 
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  Quote Vizo Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Jul 2012 at 10:58am
you're the best bprat. thanks for all the quick responses.
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  Quote Vizo Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Jul 2012 at 11:14am
So I made the below. Gives me a little larger of a SSD, a necessary amount of RAM. Gets rid of the blu ray I won't use, and I can still upgrade to SLI if I want.

I also like the fact that the case is good for cooling purposes, as I may have to fit the case into a small area, that is not particularly open on all sides.

https://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploaddreadnought.asp?id=710286

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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Jul 2012 at 11:22am
You pretty much nailed it.  Great build.Awesome
 
But, I always have suggestions. Big%20Smile  The gtx 680 is tops and hard to argue against, but the gtx 670 is about the same gaming for alot less money.    Also, the Vortex 240 is also a very nice unit,  but for tops in reliability, the D14 gets it done with alot less to go wrong.
 
Just my thoughts.  Either way, it does look great.  
 
Good Luck and keep us in the loop.Big%20Smile
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  Quote Vizo Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Jul 2012 at 11:33am
Thanks again bprat! Question about the HAF X case. Knowing that there is room at the top for another fan, is there anyway I can have one added when configuring the system? I don't see an option to add another cooling option.
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Jul 2012 at 11:38am
There is no option listed for the fan.  You'd have to tell them on the phone or in special instructions at bottom of config.  They know the fan and it usually is the CoolerMaster MegaFlow 200 Silent fan unles they are using an equivalant..
 
If you keep the Vortex 240mm cpu cooler then the fan won't fit and doesn't apply.  The rad for the Vortex mounts up there. 
 
 
 
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  Quote Asangard Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Jul 2012 at 6:07pm
Hi Vizo,
 
I had DS add the extra fan to the top of my HAF X case.  As bprat22 said add it to the special instructions at the bottom of the config page.  DS charges $30 for the fan and instillation.
 
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  Quote Vizo Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 21 Jul 2012 at 5:25pm
Wanted to post my monitor just for clarification. I believe everything should be fine with the config I have. Am I right?


http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/monitors/LS23WHUKFK/ZA
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  Quote Vizo Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 21 Jul 2012 at 5:32pm
Below is what I believe I am going to go with. Between the ODEv2 lv4 and the below, which is a better choice?


Ticket Number: 710747
Total Price with Instant Savings: $2,463.00

Direct Load URL: http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=710747

Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master 942 HAF X
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 3770K 3.50 GHz (Unlocked CPU) (Quad Core) (Requires Z77 Motherboard)
Motherboard: ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77 (Intel Z77 Chipset) (Features Thermal Armor and Thermal Radar)
System Memory: 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 800W Corsair GS (Dual SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (180GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Model: 520 Series)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (Model: Black Edition)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 2GB (Includes PhysX)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 Extreme Performance <b></b>
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 2: Overclock CPU 4.5GHz to 4.8GHz (Requires Pro/Deluxe/Sabertooth Motherboard)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Medium)
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 22 Jul 2012 at 4:11am
No contest.  The ODE lvl 4 will give you much higher gaming if you moved to more gpu intense games or a higher resolution monitor.  Your latest build does have a better case, the HafX, and a more reliable cpu cooler, the D14, but you are sacrificing in the graphic card area.
 
The single gtx 680 might be all you need, so your call.  In a year or two the sli, gtx670 might be very welcome. 
 
 With your build you do have the option to add another card later, if needed.  But, in a year or two new cards will be out that everyone will be going for.
 
For the needs you posted, the games and monitor , the single 680 will be great and you will have the best Hafx case and a great cooler.    Tough call. 
 
 
 
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  Quote josephlee Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 23 Jul 2012 at 1:06pm
I vote ODE, but its like choosing between the hot blonde or the hot red hot, you can't really go wrong.    
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  Quote Vizo Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 11:26am
Question about a new Monitor as it relates to my build. While I am getting a new pc soon, I am going to recycle the old one and give it to my wife for some basic photo editing and minimal graphic design stuff she does for fun. That said, she'll need to take my current monitor.

What is a good, if not great, 24" monitor that is available at a decent price? (sub $300)

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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 11:44am
I use the Dell UltraSharp U2312HM, actaully lasy years model, and it is a very good monitor.  On sale at Dell for $239 right now.
 
Others might chime in with their picks.
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  Quote Vizo Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Aug 2012 at 7:35am
Please have a look at the below, as I was able to up my budget slightly. I plan on ordering this by end of week. If anyone has any suggestions, please let me know.

Thanks!

Ticket Number: 717887
Total Price with Instant Savings: $2,917.00

Direct Load URL: http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=717887

Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master 942 HAF X
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 3770K 3.50 GHz (Unlocked CPU) (Quad Core) (Requires Z77 Motherboard)
Motherboard: ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77 (Intel Z77 Chipset) (Features Thermal Armor and Thermal Radar)
System Memory: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1050W Corsair Pro Silver 1050HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (120GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Model: 520 Series)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (Model: Black Edition)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2GB (Includes PhysX)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 Extreme Performance
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 2: Overclock CPU 4.5GHz to 4.8GHz (Requires Pro/Deluxe/Sabertooth Motherboard)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Medium)
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty

Edited by Vizo - 13 Aug 2012 at 7:36am
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Hi Vizo..    This is an easy one.  That build is right on.Drooling
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Go for it and keep us updated. Big%20Smile
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Hi Vizo,

Your last build is right on. Good job.

You will be hard pressed to find a better deal than the Dell 2312HM for $239. This is an IPS monitor with a great picture. Dell also makes a U2412M that is a 24" IPS monitor. Dell has that on sale right now for $299.

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And ordered! Below is the configuration I went with based on everyone's feedback. I'll be sure to post a review with pics whenever it arrives!

Thanks again to everyone for your help!

System Configuration:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master 942 HAF X
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 3770K 3.50 GHz (Unlocked CPU) (Quad Core) (Requires Z77 Motherboard)
Motherboard: ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77 (Intel Z77 Chipset) (Features Thermal Armor and Thermal Radar)
System Memory: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1050W Corsair Pro Silver 1050HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (240GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Model: 520 Series)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (Model: Black Edition)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card(s): 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2GB (Includes PhysX)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 Extreme Performance
H20 Tube Color: - Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: - No Thanks
CPU Boost: Stage 2: Overclock CPU 4.5GHz to 4.8GHz (Requires Pro/Deluxe/Sabertooth Motherboard)
Graphics Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Memory Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
OS Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Medium)
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty
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  Quote Asangard Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 21 Aug 2012 at 5:26pm
Congrats you are going to have great gaming with that rig. Awesome  Just curious no interal lighting?
 
Looking forward to the pics and reveiw.
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I noticed you kicked the SSD from 120 to 240...was that intentional?
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  Quote Vizo Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 21 Aug 2012 at 5:59pm
No, no lighting. No real reason why I guess, just didn't see the need.
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  Quote Asangard Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 21 Aug 2012 at 6:09pm
I understand on the lighting.  Just wanted to make sure you didn't miss something.
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  Quote Vizo Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 21 Aug 2012 at 7:24pm
Yup, I kicked it up based on some more games i'll be installing now, as well as possible future stuff.
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Good to go. Sounds like you got yourself a winner.
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  Quote Vizo Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 22 Aug 2012 at 7:05am
Patience, apparently, is not a virtue of mine.   
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  Quote Vizo Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 22 Aug 2012 at 7:02pm
Stage 5 already. Just over 24 hours.
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Shipped already.
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Delivered! Now if it were only 5:00....
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You look like you might have a fever.  GO HOME LOL
 
 
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