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    Posted: 18 Sep 2014 at 6:00pm
Hey guys, thinking about buying a behemoth, then heard that Navidia is releasing 900 series soon. Say if they raleased in september, how soon do you think it will be avaliable in the configurator?
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  Quote danjw1 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Sep 2014 at 6:13am
Now. ;-)
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  Quote Snaike Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Sep 2014 at 6:28am
From my (very cursory) inspections, every line now has the Nvidia 900s in the configurator, with the exception of the Vanquish II line.
 
So, as danjw1 so eloquently and succinctly answered; now.  Wink
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  Quote ArkansasWoman777 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Sep 2014 at 7:38am
Wonder how well it will run the sims 3 and sims 4 because i was planning on getting my system either this Christmas or sometime next year with a 700 series but i guess it will be the 900 series instead.

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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Sep 2014 at 7:57am
I think the OP was talking about the mobile 980M for the Behemoth laptop. Big%20Smile

Unless he meant a behemoth desktop rig, all tricked out. 


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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Sep 2014 at 8:00am
Arkansas...  Looks like the 980 will be about 10-20% better than the 780Ti and use a lot less juice to run.   The 970 will be about equal to the 780.    

The 780Ti, 780 and 770 are all being discontinued.  
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  Quote ArkansasWoman777 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Sep 2014 at 8:11am
Originally posted by bprat22

Arkansas...  Looks like the 980 will be about 10-20% better than the 780Ti and use a lot less juice to run.   The 970 will be about equal to the 780.     The 780Ti, 780 and 770 are all being discontinued.  




Being discontinued....how lovely. Gtx 970 or 980 i guess you will be my future graphics card

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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Sep 2014 at 8:16am
Looks that way.  Big%20Smile
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  Quote lychee Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Sep 2014 at 8:37am
Hold on guys, still just seeing GeForce GTX 880M and 2x SLI GTX 880M in my configurator?
 
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Sep 2014 at 8:41am
Yep, the Desktop 900 series has been added, but not the mobile 900M series for the Laptops.    Not sure when for the laptops but DS does stay on top of it.  
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Sep 2014 at 8:43am
Last I saw, the mobility cards might be the middle of October, but who really knows.  
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  Quote lychee Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Sep 2014 at 8:44am
Cool, and I have to say I'm quite impressed to have all these replies over one night. You guys are awesomeSmile
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Sep 2014 at 8:47am
Awesome        

Here's  a link that might explain it, if of course its accurate. Hahaha

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-gtx-980m-gtx-970m-maxwell-mobility-queued-week-august/




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  Quote Bronwen Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Sep 2014 at 9:42am
hmm wonder if the new 970 will fit into an Bolt 1 case. ;)
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Sep 2014 at 9:56am
Looks like roughly  the same dimensions as the gtx780, so shouldn't be an issue.  Big%20Smile
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  Quote Nav Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Sep 2014 at 10:04am
Both cards will fit into the Bolt II
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  Quote Ariktu Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Sep 2014 at 12:42pm
I am trying to decide if I should upgrade my GTX 670 to a GTX 970. I assume my CPU 3570k would still be fine and not a limiting factor.


Might be a nice present to myself.

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  Quote Meller Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Sep 2014 at 12:46pm
From all the reviews I've watched today, the GTX 780 Ti out performs the GTX 980. The GTX 980 isn't meant to replace any GK110. It's meant to be an upgrade for people still running the GTX 600 series and below.
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  Quote Meller Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Sep 2014 at 12:48pm
and not, the 3570k won't be a limited factor.
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Loving the first reports on 980, but I'm curious about how drivers factor into something like SLI scaling. Everyone mentions that card speeds can improve as newer drivers are released, but can newer drivers affect scaling too, or would that be more an issue of new card architecture being released (i.e. scaling wouldn't be improved until a "Ti" version of the 980).
Right now, while the 980 looks to beat out the 780 Ti, the gap lessens by the tri-sli mark, which leads me to believe that tri-780 Ti's might beat out Tri 980s. Of course the power consumption still beats it out, just curious about how this might improve over time. Also assuming that with a card drawing this little power/temperature, putting one under water could lead to some serious overclocking potential?

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  Quote Dax Doomslayer Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Sep 2014 at 1:00pm
A nice review by AnandTech for the 980:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8526/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-review


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  Quote Eggy Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Sep 2014 at 1:13pm
Meller, could you elaborate a bit? I haven't been able to watch any testing videos today, but from all the literature I've seen posted, it looks like the 980 is absolutely a successor to the 780 Ti. It's clearly a massive upgrade for the 6xx series and lower (and I'm running a 2xx series), but it also appears to be an upgrade from the 780 as well.
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  Quote Meller Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Sep 2014 at 3:01pm
http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/nvidia_gtx980_maxwell_review/1

The most in depth and best review I have found. And while it is on par if not just slightly better than the GTX 780, it is not the replacement for the GTX 780 ti or GTX Titan Black.

The intended audience for the GTX 900 series is to be an upgrade for users still using the GTX 600 series and older.
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  Quote db188 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Sep 2014 at 7:36pm
it's not a replacement (or more accurately and upgrade) for current GTX 780/780ti owners, but it is technically a replacement due to Nvidia phasing out those cards.  As you said, it is more of an upgrade for 500/600 series owners. 

while not an overwhelmingly big performance increase, the new tech (not to mention cost savings) in these cards will pay dividends (over and above comparably performing 700 series cards) down the road as game developers develop software that takes advantage of them.  i can think of one huge mmo (EQ Next) that will specifically take advantage of the voxel tech in these cards. 

also, they haven't even released Big Maxwell (GM210) yet,so it's too early to put a fork in performance gains.  that's what i'm waiting for. 


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Originally posted by Meller

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/nvidia_gtx980_maxwell_review/1

The most in depth and best review I have found. And while it is on par if not just slightly better than the GTX 780, it is not the replacement for the GTX 780 ti or GTX Titan Black.

The intended audience for the GTX 900 series is to be an upgrade for users still using the GTX 600 series and older.


That is always true. They don't expect most customers to upgrade from the previous generation graphics cards.

This is the review I read: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8526/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-review. It is also very detailed. The 780 Ti, does win in one benchmark but at 1080p resolution. The 980 should also have better overclocking, particularly when boards with improved power delivery are released. Also, with the newer technology that is supported the 980 give it a longer life.

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  Quote Meller Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Sep 2014 at 1:13pm
Originally posted by danjw1

Originally posted by Meller

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/nvidia_gtx980_maxwell_review/1

The most in depth and best review I have found. And while it is on par if not just slightly better than the GTX 780, it is not the replacement for the GTX 780 ti or GTX Titan Black.

The intended audience for the GTX 900 series is to be an upgrade for users still using the GTX 600 series and older.


That is always true. They don't expect most customers to upgrade from the previous generation graphics cards.

This is the review I read: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8526/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-review. It is also very detailed. The 780 Ti, does win in one benchmark but at 1080p resolution. The 980 should also have better overclocking, particularly when boards with improved power delivery are released. Also, with the newer technology that is supported the 980 give it a longer life.


Once the version of the 980 "ti" comes out or the flagship version of the 900 series, we'll see 780 ti/titan black replacements. Which supports what you're saying, but it won't be the 980. Or when the GM110 (rumors pointing it'll be called GM110) comes out, it'll replace your flagship 700 series. Maxwell will replace Kepler, there is no denying that.
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  Quote danjw1 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 22 Sep 2014 at 8:37am
Originally posted by Meller


Once the version of the 980 "ti" comes out or the flagship version of the 900 series, we'll see 780 ti/titan black replacements. Which supports what you're saying, but it won't be the 980. Or when the GM110 (rumors pointing it'll be called GM110) comes out, it'll replace your flagship 700 series. Maxwell will replace Kepler, there is no denying that.


The 780 Ti was a fully enabled GPU with no units blocked otherwise it was the same GPU as the 780. A lot of recent rumors of what Nvidia is going to do have turned out to be false. If it is a GM110 that would suggest a Maxwell 1 not the Maxwell 2 that is in the GM204.

The 27nm process that the current Maxwell parts are based on is very well understood by Nvidia. I wouldn't be surprised that Nvidia has fully enabled the GM204 in the 780. So, I wouldn't assume we are going to see a 980 Ti or a Titan 2, or whatever they decide to call it, any time in the near future.

The 980 beat the 780 Ti in most of the benchmarks that I have seen, with one exception. Now, it isn't enough to justify to most people with a 780 Ti to upgrade. I will agree with that, but neither Nvidia or AMD expect their customers to upgrade with every generation. They expect them to skip at least one or two generations.

That said if someone it looking for a flagship card now, there is no good reason to go with a 780 Ti. It has lower frame rates in most current games, and that will come more pronounced as the new technologies work there way into game engines. I just don't know why anyone who is looking to buy a flagship card would go with a 780 Ti, unless it was for a deep discount over the 980.
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  Quote Nav Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 22 Sep 2014 at 10:00am
The GTX 980 is essentially a GTX 780 Ti replacement. There is no reason to specifically look for a 780 Ti unless it is much lower in price. New technologies in the Maxwell lineup will definitely improve frame rates in future games. Not to mention, that extra 1 GB of VRAM will help as well.
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