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    Posted: 06 Aug 2007 at 5:39pm

Case: Digital Storm Twister VALUE (Black Edition)

Power Supply: 620W Corsair HX (SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition) (High-Quality Unit)

Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 2.66GHz (1333MHz Front Side Bus) (4MB Cache)

Motherboard: nVidia 650i Core 2 Quad (By: eVGA) (nForce 650i Ultra)

Memory: 2GB DDR2 Corsair at 1066MHz Dominator (Dual Channel) (Extreme-Performance)

Floppy / Media: Sony 1.44MB Floppy (Black Edition) Hard Drive 1: 500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
 
Optical Drive 1: DVD-ROM/CD-ROM (DVD Reader 16x / CD Reader 40x)
 
Optical Drive 2: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x)

Connectivity: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)

Video Card: nVidia GeForce 8800GTX 768MB (By: eVGA) (PCI-Express)

TV Tuner: ATI TV Wonder 650 (HDTV, Video Recording, FM Radio, Video Input and Capture) Sound Card: Creative Labs Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer (Up to 7.1 Channel)

Cooling: Air Cooled Stage 2 (Silent Artic Cooling Heat-sink (Copper Heatpipes) Case Lighting: Blizzard Internal Lighting (Blue Edition) (Cold Cathode Tubes)

Cabling: Enhanced Interior Air Flow (Optical Drive & Floppy Cables (Blue Edition) User Manual: Personalized Platinum Digital Storm Binder (Includes Paperwork/Benchmarks/CDs/Manuals)

Windows OS: Microsoft Windows XP Home (Includes Service Pack 2) Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)

LCD Display: Samsung 20 inch (Widescreen) (Black) (High-Performance Gaming Display) Surge Shield: APC SurgeArrest Personal PER7 (7 Outlet) 120V Surge Protector

Speakers: Logitech 5.1 System (Black Edition) (Model X-5400) (Includes Subwoofer)

Keyboard: Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard

Mouse: Logitech G7 Laser Cordless Mouse (High-Speed Gaming Grade)

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  Quote skyR Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Aug 2007 at 5:48pm
I would suggest getting Windows Vista Premium and a Q6600 or QX6750 if you are going to use this machine as a media center. 


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  Quote Alex Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Aug 2007 at 6:23pm
Great setup, if your going for more of a Media Center PC, go with Vista Premium, if your going for a gaming system --- stick with Windows XP
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  Quote Dave Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Aug 2007 at 7:24pm
yea definitely stick with XP for a gaming machine as Vista really plain out sucks, at least till they release a new patch for it so yea stick with XP
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  Quote Donut Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Aug 2007 at 10:23pm
Originally posted by Dave

yea definitely stick with XP for a gaming machine as Vista really plain out sucks, at least till they release a new patch for it so yea stick with XP



Except a lot of the newer games will be vista-only, won't they? :O

Or at least optimized for vista


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  Quote Alex Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 Aug 2007 at 12:53am

It will be a while before that happens, spending about $100 for Vista at a later date is better than sticking with all the trouble and headaches (not alone the time you wasted).

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  Quote Donut Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 Aug 2007 at 3:17am
Originally posted by Alex

It will be a while before that happens, spending about $100 for Vista at a later date is better than sticking with all the trouble and headaches (not alone the time you wasted).




Up-and-coming games like Crysis and UTIII run just as well on xp as on vista then?
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  Quote Dave Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 Aug 2007 at 3:36am
well maybe i am not sure but i would think they would be able to run on XP because so far Vista is really un-stable as of now so later on i would think they would yes be mainly for Vista but able to run on XP.
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  Quote skyR Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 Aug 2007 at 4:00am
Crysis and UT3 will run better on Windows Vista because the games were designed for DX10 from the ground up. Windows XP will be able to run the game but it won't look as good since it can't do the DX10 effects even if you have a DX10 card.


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  Quote MSBMichael Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 Aug 2007 at 9:56am
wow, well in the end i guess wait for the updates to vista and the newer games that will be optomized for vista.
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  Quote Dave Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 Aug 2007 at 10:16am
yes pretty much the bottom line is to either get Vista and wait for SP1 to come out.
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  Quote Larry Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 08 Aug 2007 at 8:37am
I had heard that Microsoft is considering to have DirectX 10 compatible with XP with a release.  Has anyone else heard that or something like it?
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  Quote skyR Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 08 Aug 2007 at 1:56pm
Originally posted by Larry

I had heard that Microsoft is considering to have DirectX 10 compatible with XP with a release.  Has anyone else heard that or something like it?


Nope, I don't think Microsoft would waste their time with DX10 on XP since most developers will still make their software & games backward compatible with DX9. So the consumers will just have to choose Vista XP

Microsoft wants everybody to switch to Vista and 64bit so they get more money! =)
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  Quote Kelly Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 08 Aug 2007 at 2:06pm
It is a fact that Microsoft will not offer DX10 as an XP tool.  I think it was said that in May or June of next year, XP will no longer be supported.  What gets me, is that last August, they finally stopped supporting 98/ME, I don't understand that why they're nixing XP so quickly since XP is a far more stable OS (it took it damn near 4 years to get it that way, but I digress). 
So I will repeat.  DX10 for XP is a hacked up stripped down version of DX10 being released by a hacker group.  It may work, but it won't be a true DX10. 
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  Quote Crulend Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 08 Aug 2007 at 3:48pm
My guess is that they're dropping XP in order to try to force OEM builders to move over to Vista.  Dell was offering XP for a little while on some of their machines, but I think it's just their XPS line now.
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  Quote Robert Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 08 Aug 2007 at 4:08pm
DX10 will definitely work on XP, however some features will not be available and it may take some time.

"This article doesn't cover the main aspect of DX10 that MS uses as an excuse to not port DX10 to XP.

That is, in Vista, the kernel schedules GPU tasks. This allows multiple clients to use the GPU simultaneously without having to have intimate knowledge of how every client in the system is using the GPU. In that way, it is just like CPU scheduling allows CPU multitasking.

This was needed for Vista because the system uses the GPU to render the UI, while a game may be trying to use it too.

And this cannot be easily ported to XP. Note that GL doesn't do this scheduling either, and it cannot since GL is outside the kernel.

However, under XP, the system doesn't use the GPU at all, so the game using the GPU is the sole client and you don't need this scheduling unless the game itself has multiple tasks to schedule.

So what MS could do (and if I were NVidia I would beg them to do) is bring DX10 to XP with the caveat that games can only have one task using the GPU at once since there is no scheduling. This would allow XP to have much of the DX10 functionality.

But the executive version is MS isn't going to do this because they are using DX10 was a lever to sell copies of Vista.

P.S.: the article in question is useless in arguing this point. Poor choice by the submitter."
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