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    Posted: 16 Sep 2008 at 12:34pm

Hi everybody, I made a post a while back and said I was probably going to wait for nehalem to order, but i've decided im probably going to order near the begining of october, regardless of nehalem. I have a little over 6k saved and im going to be using a 24 inch samsung.



Edited by Adefacin - 16 Sep 2008 at 12:35pm
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  Quote Kelly Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 Sep 2008 at 1:47pm
Under $6k!
http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=183681

Copy of Specifications:
Chassis: Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Power Supply: 1200W PC Power & Cooling (ESA Edition) (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad QX9650 Extreme 3.00GHz (1333MHz FSB) (12MB Cache)
Motherboard: nVidia 790i Ultra Core 2 Quad (nForce 790i Ultra SLI) (DDR3 Only)
System Memory: 4GB DDR3 OCZ at 1600MHz Platinum Edition
Card Reader: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 1: 300GB Western Digital VelociRaptor (10K RPM) (16MB Cache) (Extreme Speed)
Hard Drive 2: - No Thanks
Raid Option: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 3: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-ROM/CD-ROM (DVD Reader 16x / CD Reader 40x)
Optical Drive 2: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x)
Wireless Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280 1GB) (Includes PhysX Technology)
TV Tuner: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Razer Barracuda AC-1 (Recommended)
Extreme Cooling: Air Cooled Stage 2 (Silent Artic Cooling Heat-sink Upgrade (Copper Heatpipes)
Internal Lighting: Blizzard Internal Lighting (Blue Edition) (Cold Cathode Tubes)
Modifications: NVIDIA Enthusiast System Architecture (ESA) System (Install, Test, Optimize Computer)
Boost Processor: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my processor
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: Samsung 24 inch (Widescreen) (Black) (High-Performance Gaming Display)
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: Razer Lycosa Gaming Keyboard
Mouse: Razer Lachesis Gaming Mouse (High-Speed Gaming Grade)
External Storage: - No Thanks
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty


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Oh, change the case lighting to red.

Now, Depending on what you want to do, you can always add liquid cooling... you could overclock... this is just a basic system that I personally would be very proud to have :)

Edited by Kelly - 16 Sep 2008 at 1:51pm
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  Quote Adefacin Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 Sep 2008 at 1:52pm
awesome! My only complaints would be the sound card and the cooling, I cant really tell the difference when it comes to sound and I would like my computer to be as silent as possible so I dont know about the air cooling.
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  Quote Costone Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 Sep 2008 at 1:58pm
If you could afford to.....definitely stretch for the liquid cooling.
 
I can hear a water drop land on my desk while my machine is running....just a very low hum.
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  Quote Adefacin Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 Sep 2008 at 2:00pm

That would be nice, liquid for the cpu for sure but is liquid for the gpus worth it as well?

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  Quote Kelly Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 Sep 2008 at 2:01pm
You guys DO realize that watercooling is cooled by just as many fans as air cooling, right?

@adefacin, then drop the sound card.
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  Quote Kelly Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 Sep 2008 at 2:03pm
I would go for it, but keep in mind, you'll want the dual loop setup
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  Quote Adefacin Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 Sep 2008 at 2:07pm

ok one more question, with liquid how well will the qx9650 overclock?

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sometimes, 4+.
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  Quote Adefacin Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 Sep 2008 at 2:10pm

That would be great Ouch 

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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 Sep 2008 at 2:21pm
OK hold on.

Kelly has build you system for $5949

here is a stronger system for less

here you go $5435

You are spending so much money you want a beast, you want liquid cooling, cause its more quite, stable, cooler, higher OC speeds and more stable. You want the qx9770 so you can much higher clock speeds.

Chassis: Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Power Supply: 1000W Corsair HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad QX9770 Extreme 3.20GHz (1600MHz FSB) (12MB Cache)
Motherboard: nVidia 790i Ultra Core 2 Quad (nForce 790i Ultra SLI) (DDR3 Only)
System Memory: 4GB DDR3 OCZ at 1333MHz
Card Reader: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 1: 300GB Western Digital VelociRaptor (10K RPM) (16MB Cache) (Extreme Speed)
Hard Drive 2: 500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Raid Option: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 3: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x) (LightScribe Edition)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Wireless Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280 1GB) (Includes PhysX Technology)
TV Tuner: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: Liquid Chilled FrostBite CPU Only
Internal Lighting: Blizzard Internal Lighting (Blue Edition) (Cold Cathode Tubes)
Modifications: NVIDIA Enthusiast System Architecture (ESA) System (Install, Test, Optimize Computer)
Boost Processor: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: Yes, Overclock memory timings (Includes Memory Fan Kit Installed)
Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty


I put that system against the one kelly build for you anyday


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  Quote Costone Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 Sep 2008 at 2:30pm
Uhoh.....pricing Gunfight at OK Corral...
 
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 Sep 2008 at 2:36pm
No price fight, I respect kelly and everybody else here.

Just another recommendation, which I think happens to be more powerfull

Kelly's build is a very nice build but I like mine better, more power less money
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here's me not caring. The customer will do what he wants.
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  Quote Adefacin Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 Sep 2008 at 2:54pm

Would a 1000watt power supply be able to handle all that? And how much of a difference is there between the 1333mhz ram and the 1600mhz ram?

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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 Sep 2008 at 2:58pm
yes it can handle that, I watch 1000w psu handle dual processor systems

anyways, yes it can easily handle it, you can also drop down to the 260 card instead of the 280, you won't know much of a difference between the 2 when going dual.   Not that there is that much difference between them anyways. check the chart: (remember my setup has the 280 so if you want the 260 don't forget to change that )



ram speed does not make that much of a difference but you are overclocking your ram anyways.

regardless, your CPU is more powerful (qx9770) so you get a faster PC which OCs higher also and with liquid cooling you can go higher and stay stable



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  Quote Adefacin Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 Sep 2008 at 3:01pm
ok, thanks for the advice
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 Sep 2008 at 3:04pm
No problem, you have two directions you can go now, the system Kelly advised and the one I did.

we are both just making recommendations, you decide what you like, I hope that form both of us you got all the info you need to help you.

good luck

bTW if you got the budget you can always raise the ram to what kelly advised, nothing wrong with that.


feel free to go with higher speed ram if you like and don't care about teh extra money

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I was thinking, how much higher will the qx9770 go compared to the qx9650? I mean is it worth the extra 400$?


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its up to you, the qx9770 should clock faster, I'm not sure if it runs as hot as the qx9650.

its all upto you, the qx9770 is the highest you can go right now, the qx9650 is the step right below qx9770

If I were to purchase today I would go with qx9770 its worth it now and later to me. If you have the money its worth it IMO.

also at this level, if you choose to upgrade later to the 9770 then you will have paid lots more so you might as well go with 9770 now

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$6,000 rig and integrated audio! That makes me sad! Wink
Mostly sad for the consumer, because it means that the industry isn't paying enough attention to what I consider an integral part of the gaming experience. When are the manufacturers going to step out beyond what ASUS is attempting with their Xonar D2X? To me, that is what I wish entry level pc audio was, not everything else which is inferior.
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widdlecat, everybody does not care or use their PC audio as much.

most mombo's now in days provide enough for regular people, now people like your self that are heavily into the sound ofcourse can appreciate a good card.
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