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    Posted: 18 Sep 2008 at 6:11pm
I am proud to announce that Maximum PC Magazine has reviewed the Benchmark Crusher and awarded it a 9/10 in the latest "November" issue of Maximum PC magazine.
 
Update, the new price for the same unit is now $8,197.00USD.
 
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Sep 2008 at 6:27pm
Ofcourse the QX9770

OK something I don't understand, noisy? why? its got liquid cooling.

expensive? compared to what? I dare them to go find another builder with the same exact specs for a better price.



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  Quote Alex Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Sep 2008 at 6:29pm
Some people don't know the extra luxury they get with us.
 
It was noisy due to the PC Power & Cooling unit. If it was a different power supply, it would of been quiet.
 
Other than that, Digital Storm FTW Ermm
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Sep 2008 at 6:31pm
you mean like the 850w?

in that case it should be a 9.5/10, cause the expensive remark is BS, and misleading, now everybody reading that article will think DS is pricey like fnw, which is far from truth.
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  Quote Axel Daemon Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Sep 2008 at 6:35pm
White outside, black inside?  Wah?  I thought it was the opposite, Black outside, white inside lol.

Well whichever the case, nice dudes! Ermm

Though agreed.  Expensive is utter baloney.  What does fnw stand for?

Edit: And no DST4ME you need 1000W to feed 3 GTX 280s lol (though I do believe 1200W is for safe measures).  Once you hit the 1000W mark, supposedly the PSUs become the noisiest thing on the computer.

Besides while it's nice to see a 9/10 on a MAGAZINE ARTICLE, never trust them personally, the reviews you find on the net are far more satisfying supposedly lol.


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  Quote Duke Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Sep 2008 at 7:35pm
Typo in the article. Specs box says three GTX 260s.
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YES.....it IS worth crushing your wallet to get one....! Evil%20Smile

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  Quote david5182 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Sep 2008 at 12:52am
Originally posted by Alex

Some people don't know the extra luxury they get with us.
 
It was noisy due to the PC Power & Cooling unit. If it was a different power supply, it would of been quiet.
 
Other than that, Digital Storm FTW Ermm
The article says that the PSU is Corsair.
 
Congrats on a good review. :)
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Sep 2008 at 12:58am
Originally posted by Axel Daemon





Edit: And no DST4ME you need 1000W to feed 3 GTX 280s lol (though I do believe 1200W is for safe measures).  Once you hit the 1000W mark, supposedly the PSUs become the noisiest thing on the computer.Besides while it's nice to see a 9/10 on a MAGAZINE ARTICLE, never trust them personally, the reviews you find on the net are far more satisfying supposedly lol.


Alex said a different PSU would make less noise and I know the 1000w starts to get loud but I'm wondering which PSU Alex meant then?

I agree with you about believing articles, all these reviews on sites and magazine are mainly full of crap. If you really want to know something you need to research it your self
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  Quote widdlecat Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Sep 2008 at 1:32am
Originally posted by Duke

Typo in the article. Specs box says three GTX 260s.


REVIEW: Maximum PC Magazine Editor 7/10 Smile


Considering how their reviews run, I consider a 9 / 10 to be excellent! Congratulations DSO! Ermm

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  Quote Nomak Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Sep 2008 at 9:06am
Gotta love the Nvidia mobo that took a dump...
 
Broken%20Heart
 
Their stock has gone to sheet and now the mobo on a 9000$ PC up for a review.
 
Id wager a box like this would cost 14000$ from NWF. How would they call it?
 
[edit] Looks like ive jumped the gun, but NWFs system of same specs w/o OC costs about the same $. I would go as far as to say its competitive.


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How many people spend 8Gs on a computer? Or am I just cheap by getting a 2.7K computer? lol
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  Quote workingman Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Sep 2008 at 12:06pm
what wasnt mentioned is that the rig only marginally out performed a cyberpower rig they had already reviewed..for a lot less money....so i think their expensive..statement is correct...more than i would ever spend on any rig from anyone...
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  Quote workingman Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Sep 2008 at 12:17pm
Originally posted by SunfighterLC

How many people spend 8Gs on a computer? Or am I just cheap by getting a 2.7K computer? lol
  i was gonna spend 8k on a rig from dso..but dont have to now..hm is gonna help me build one..so i guess it was a good call by you..hell i even spent less than 2.7k on mine..Wink
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  Quote paraguy1 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Sep 2008 at 2:22pm
I guess I am one of the few I just got my $8500 super system from DS today I cant wait to hook this beast up. review and pics will be posted as soon as I am done drooling all over it.
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  Quote workingman Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Sep 2008 at 2:24pm
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what wasnt mentioned is that the rig only marginally out performed a cyberpower rig they had already reviewed..for a lot less money.5000.00..so i think their expensive..statement is correct...more than i would ever spend on any rig from anyone...
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Sep 2008 at 3:32pm
Originally posted by paraguy1

I guess I am one of the few I just got my $8500 super system from DS today I cant wait to hook this beast up. review and pics will be posted as soon as I am done drooling all over it.


Man that is great news can't wait to see pics of your beast
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  Quote Doc Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Sep 2008 at 6:25pm
Originally posted by DST4ME

you mean like the 850w?

in that case it should be a 9.5/10, cause the expensive remark is BS, and misleading, now everybody reading that article will think DS is pricey like fnw, which is far from truth.
 
 
$9,255 is pricey, by definition. I'm not sure they were suggesting that DS is generally pricey.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Sep 2008 at 6:51pm
When the cons says pricey then it suggest that the downfall to the DS system is price, regular readers will see it like that.

the price is high because of lot of BS things, eg., why did the system need a bluray? thats a personal and expensive choice

more then 90% of these reviews are BS when you look at it in detail

You will find very few good quality reviews that are worth the paper/page they were printed/posted on
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  Quote Axel Daemon Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Sep 2008 at 6:55pm
Surely in this day and age even bird-brained people know to take reviews like these with a grain of salt.
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  Quote Alex Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Sep 2008 at 7:56pm

Here's the other thing:

If it didn't have Blu-Ray, they would of said, a $9,000 system without Blu-Ray? Etc...
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Sep 2008 at 8:05pm
Ya Alex but you know we could get those same performance results from a 6000 system easy.
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  Quote Nomak Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Sep 2008 at 9:11am

I would also like to add to what DST4ME said, that this review is pretty crappy. With a 3-SLi setup how come they didnt take their time to measure case temps + CPU/GPU temps, since rig being reviewed only had liquid cooling for CPU.

Who cares about benchmarks if that rig might overheat like a frying pan. Which also brings me to a question why didnt DSO include liquid cooling for 3 gpus for such an expensive system - trying to keep the price down or 950si has enough vents in it to keep 3 280 nvids cool enough under full load?
 
If it didn't have Blu-Ray, they would of said, a $9,000 system without Blu-Ray? Etc...
 
Not to play with fire but: "$$8,197 system without GPU liquid cooling?" Ouch (updated price)
 
I really want to find a review w/ case temps/gpu temps for 3-SLi setups w/ nvids latest n greatest cards w/ stock fans. If anyone knows of one please tell me.
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  Quote workingman Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Sep 2008 at 9:35am
people will always shop with their wallets..doesnt matter what they get....someone sees paying one company 9k for a system that is only slightly better performance wise..than another company offering close to the same for 5k...i dont care who you are...a 4k savings..rings your cashregister...it does make dso look way overpriced...Cry
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  Quote workingman Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Sep 2008 at 9:44am
Originally posted by Axel Daemon

Surely in this day and age even bird-brained people know to take reviews like these with a grain of salt.
i guess you have never worked with the public...Clap
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  Quote Nomak Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Sep 2008 at 12:05pm
Working for a shipping company im sure you had a fair share of pleasure dealing with em calling you: "Wheres my package?!" "Is it okay?!" "Have you lost my package?!"
 
But you can always play with them.. : "Your package is too small for me to be able to actually find it." ... and im sure many ther are other twists to it. Have you tried some of em? Embarrassed


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  Quote workingman Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Sep 2008 at 5:44pm
oh yeah..lines to get you fired by.....if you were so worried about it maybe you should have shipped ups....or .why did you order that...were all the stores closed?......well as long as its not a necessity...get over it..and  my favorite...just keep saying to yourself..its only a package....its only a package....its only a package....if i ever want to be unempolyed..i will use them...lmao
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  Quote Nomak Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Sep 2008 at 5:57pm
I say go out with a big bang, when the time comes. Smile

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  Quote workingman Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Sep 2008 at 5:58pm
well sure..on my last day..which is a good deal away....dont worry..i got them all tucked awayBig%20smile
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  Quote Axel Daemon Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Sep 2008 at 5:59pm
Originally posted by workingman

Originally posted by Axel Daemon

Surely in this day and age even bird-brained people know to take reviews like these with a grain of salt.
i guess you have never worked with the public...Clap


More or less... never hurts to be optimistic though about society LOL.
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  Quote Alex Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Sep 2008 at 6:37pm
Well, we could of course configured the system without the two paint jobs (interior and exterior) and without the massive hard drive setup, or our FrostBite liquid cooling package.
 
That alone with other nice additions we had would of brought the price of the unit lower. Of course, not the same as CyberPower, since, the price difference obviously covers extra testing, quality assurance, and resources to ensure we have excellent customer service.
 
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  Quote Tyler Lowe Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Sep 2008 at 10:21pm

I can't say I think a test run in two games is all that conclusive in terms of testing the performance of those two systems. As HDR lighting becomes more commonplace in titles, and the level of graphics becomes more demanding, the increased memory bandwidth of the GTX280 setup is going to make itself felt. I believe strongly that in a year, there will be no doubt in anyone's mind which setup is a better performer.

I will not cast aspersions on Maximum PC, only say that the review could have and perhaps should have taken the time to explain the differences in the technology in both systems so that the difference in price between the two systems might be better understood by readers looking to them for an expert analysis.


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Yeah....what Tyler said.... I have no problem casting asperations though, I carry a machine gun everywhere. So, I think it was both irresponsible and damaging that MPC did not go into detail about the cons stated on the review. I do think that getting a 9/10 is fantastic, but like mentioned earlier, if I was reading it, and saw 9/10 but a 8/9k price tag, I would smile, sigh and turn the page. I am a proud American Consumer who shops with his wallet. Mainly because I dont carry a purse. Unless you consider a 200 round bucket of ammo a purse.....if you do then it is the most manly purse EVER....

Sorry about going off topic, and in conclusion, Gratz DSO on the great review, and I am sorry the magazine didn't claify quite as well as could have been. Still, a 9/10 should bring people to the website right?

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PS FNW means Falcon North West, another boutique computer company that is incredibly expensive.

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FNW didn't used to be that way tho, once they got famous they went nuts
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ONce again. DS pulls it off. They never cease to amaze.
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