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  Quote PhoenixDevil Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Topic: Machine for Video editing & general use
    Posted: 14 May 2012 at 9:56am
Budget:
$2,000 to $3,000

Expectations:
Looking for a machine that will allow me edit with Premier Pro CS6 & do general PC work - email, internet, Microsoft Office.

Usage:
The biggest demand will be the video editing with Premiere Pro and usage of the other Adobe products. Mainly edit HDV & some DV. There will be no gaming done on this machine - work only!

Special Needs:
I'm hoping to get a quiet machine, but not sure how realistic that will be.

Saved Ticket #: 688094

Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master 942 HAF X Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 3770K 3.50 GHz (Unlocked CPU) (Quad Core) (Requires Z77 Motherboard)
Motherboard: ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77 (Intel Z77 Chipset) (Features Thermal Armor and Thermal Radar)
System Memory: 32GB DDR3 1600Mhz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested) <b></b>
Power Supply: 1000W Digital Storm Certified (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition Highly Recommended)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (180GB Solid State (By: Corsair) (Model: Force GT Series CSSD-F180GBGT-BK) (SATA 6Gbps) Set 1
Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (Model: Black Edition)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: Blu-Ray & DVD Writer/Reader (Burn + Play Blu-Ray & DVDs) (12x BD-R)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 1.5GB (Includes PhysX) (Overclocked EVGA 015-P3-1582-BR)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex Liquid CPU Cooler (High-Performance Edition)
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero
LCS Cooling System Selected Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Blue)
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: Noise Suppression Package Stage 1 (Optimized Airflow & Fan Speeds Only)
LaserMark: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Standard Intel Turbo Boost 2.0 Automatic Overclocking <b></b>
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional (64-Bit Edition) Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD) Virus Protection: - No Thanks

I am not a computer illiterate, but am far from an expert so I do have some questions regarding what I've put together:

1 - Will the items I've chosen above work well together and if not, will DS alert me to that fact?

2 - Overclocking - is it really necessary?

3 - Noise suppression - as I mentioned above, I want a quiet machine, but do the noise suppression tactics really work?

Thank you in advance for taking the time to help me out!
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 May 2012 at 10:17am
Hi PheonixDevil....Welcome to the forums.
 
Here's a build to check out and I'll explain.
 
Config # 688104     Cost $ 2687
 
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master 942 HAF X
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 3820 3.6GHz (Turbo Mode up to 3.8GHz) (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS Sabertooth X79 (Intel X79 Chipset) (Features USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s)
System Memory: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 750W Corsair HX (Dual SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (180GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Model: 520 Series)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (Model: Black Edition)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: Blu-Ray & DVD Writer/Reader (Burn + Play Blu-Ray & DVDs) (12x BD-R)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2GB (Includes PhysX)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Corsair H100 Liquid CPU Cooler (240mm Radiator) (Extreme-Performance Edition)
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 1: Overclock CPU 4.0GHz to 4.4GHz
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Large)
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty

 
I changed motherboard to the X79 platform, it's quad channel memory, faster for your apps than the dual channel ram of Z77.
 
You could go to the six core i7-3930k chip instead of the 4 core I put in, but it would be anothr $300.
 
I changed psu to the 750Hx, tops in reliability and a 7 year warranty.
 
The gtx580 was dropped for the latest, gtx 670, cheaper and a better performer and runs much cooler with less juice needed..
 
Changed the cpu cooler to the H100.  The Vortex isn't all that great and the H100 is quieter on low-medium settings.
 
DS might not overclock the i7-3820 but I put in stage 1 oc, because they said in some cases it might work.  You could just drop the oc stage 1 and go with the chips build-in turbo.  I would try it and see what they say.  Oc'ing is a bump in processing.
 
Noise suppression with this HafX would be a waste.  The HafX is the best air cooled case and why mess with fan speeds. 
 
I forgot to put in the 32GB memory, but a easy fix if you need it.  If you change to the 32GB you'll have a similar priced system that performs better than your build both in ram usage for editing and video graphic performance. 
 
See what you think and good luck.Big%20SmileBig%20Smile
 
  
 


Edited by bprat22 - 14 May 2012 at 10:25am
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  Quote PhoenixDevil Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 May 2012 at 10:50am
Wow! Thank you very much for your "rebuild" of my system - I was not expecting this level of assistance!

When I get a chance, I will go to the config number and check it out - probably going to the 32GB memory.

Thank you again and I'll let you know what I decide.
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  Quote tju76 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 May 2012 at 1:36pm
my build also is 3820 and from what i have read on numerous forums the 3820 has no problem overclocking, it is partially unlocked and just has to be done a different way then a K unlocked chip would be overclocked 
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  Quote PhoenixDevil Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 May 2012 at 2:26pm
I'm considering biting the bullet and updating to the 3930 as from what I've been able to find out, the additional cores make a big difference in how fast projects will render.

I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on what the difference would be with a 3820 overclocked and a 3930 running normal (or even overclocked).

My fear is that 1 year from now I'm sitting here wishing I had just coughed up the extra $300 for the 3930 and faster render times.
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 May 2012 at 2:36pm
If it's in the budget, I would say the i7-3930 for sure.   You know the editing better than I but the six core even not oc' d will give better performance.    Plus., the 3930k is easier for DS to oc., giving even more processing power.      
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  Quote PhoenixDevil Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 May 2012 at 3:00pm
Originally posted by bprat22

If it's in the budget, I would say the i7-3930 for sure.   You know the editing better than I but the six core even not oc' d will give better performance.    Plus., the 3930k is easier for DS to oc., giving even more processing power.      


It's definitely a budget buster, taking it over the $3,000 mark, but I average a new machine every 4 or 5 years and usually limp through the last year or so - so I am leaning towards the 3930.

This will be the most powerful & expensive machine I will have purchased and I'd like to stretch it's life over as many years as possible and not be watching a render take forever while wondering how much faster it would be if I had just gotten the 3930.



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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 May 2012 at 4:56pm
Tough decisions.    Money does factor in.    As far as overclocking, the 6 core does generate more heat and oc' ing adds to it.     Go with the modest stage 1 oc' ing and with DS doing it right, you' ll be good to go.   Cpu longrvity won' t be an issue. The H100 can handle it.      When DS oc's they save the settings in a custom profile in the Bios.   You can always load default profile and undo.       Us or DS are always there to help.   
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  Quote PhoenixDevil Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 May 2012 at 12:06pm
I have completed my order and wanted to give an update, but first wanted to express my thanks to everyone who helped, especially bprat22 who really helped steer me in the right direction with my build.

I did decide to go with the i7 3930K as everything I read said the benefits would be noticeable compared to the 3820 when rendering video files with Adobe Premiere Pro/Encore, etc.

I increased the memory to 32GB to hopefully avoid any issues while editing and doing other work simultaneously.

I stayed with bprat22's recommendations regarding the motherboard (Sabertooth X79) and Video card (GeForce GTX670).

One item I did drop was the overclocking. In chatting with the online chat help, it seemed the greatest benefit to OC would be in gaming - something I will not be doing with this machine. They then recommended to use the Noctua fan as opposed to the liquid cooling so I went that route. I figured if I want to explore OC down the road, I can revisit it then.

If anyone is curious, the config number is 688247.

Thank you again and now the really hard part begins - waiting for the machine!

Edited by PhoenixDevil - 15 May 2012 at 12:07pm
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 May 2012 at 12:14pm
Real Nice Awesome  This rig is gonna be sweet with the tasks you have for it. Big%20Smile
 
The Noctua D14 is very relaible and quiet.  Good choice.
 
Keep us updated.Big%20Smile
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