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    Posted: 30 Jan 2008 at 10:47pm
i am a new pc gamer(or gonna be one once i get a new comp)what are some good rts games for noobs(consoles dont have good rts games)i was thinking starcraft or warcraftSleepySleepy
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  Quote Nomad Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Jan 2008 at 6:50pm
Originally posted by kira bang

i am a new pc gamer(or gonna be one once i get a new comp)what are some good rts games for noobs(consoles dont have good rts games)i was thinking starcraft or warcraftSleepySleepy

Well I just started getting into the RTS genre myself, and the first one I bought was the Wacraft 3 Battlechest! Awesome game! But you have to be VERY patient when playing online. I've only played about 6 matches so far but I've lost every one of them... badly Tongue But I still need to play the Campaign so maybe that'll help me out...

Oh and I've played the StarCraft expansion "Brood Wars" and it really surprised me. I thought I wouldn't like it because let's face it, the game is like 10 years old lol But like I said, I was pleasantly surprised and enjoyed the little bit that I played of it.

But I also heard that a real simple RTS that is good for n00bs is Command and Conquer 3. But I've never played that so I can't vouch for it, just what I've heard.


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  Quote kira bang Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Jan 2008 at 7:26pm
oh ok thanks those will be on my buy list now
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  Quote Nomad Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Feb 2008 at 4:42pm
Originally posted by kira bang

oh ok thanks those will be on my buy list now

Awesome!

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  Quote syn Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Feb 2008 at 5:15pm
WC3 and SC are amazing games, although the learning curves are VERY steep (as in, unless you're amazing at micromanaging every unit and building, you're gonna get stomped).


C&C Generals is much better than 3 in my opinion, and is pretty cheap now.
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  Quote Nomad Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 03 Feb 2008 at 11:37pm
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the learning curves are VERY steep (as in, unless you're amazing at micromanaging every unit and building, you're gonna get stomped).

LOL word man!
I've lost every single game so far Cry
But oddly, it's still very fun LOL
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  Quote Solo Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 04 Feb 2008 at 1:01am
yeah nomad watch the replay i sent you a few more times :P
 
 
but YES the campaign playing it through improves skill tremendously
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  Quote Nomad Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 04 Feb 2008 at 8:30pm
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yeah nomad watch the replay i sent you a few more times :P
 
 
but YES the campaign playing it through improves skill tremendously

Hahaha yeah man I will for sure!

Really? Ok great I'll prolly just put my online gaming obsession with WC3 on hold for a bit so I can complete the campaign :D
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  Quote Getout Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 Feb 2008 at 6:11pm
At blizzcon they had the WC3 and SC Finals.  They said they could do over 500 commands a minute.  Most of the online players are not that good but have everything down
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  Quote Dashuu Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 Feb 2008 at 8:04pm
Definitely play through the single player story lines. Think of them as the online tutorial. For an RTS noob, you may want to consider the Battle for Middle-Earth games. If you're not into the lord of the rings story line, you may not like the game, but it definitely has an easy learning curve. Another great RTS would be the Dawn of War series, but it's extremely difficult online. 
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  Quote Nomad Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 Feb 2008 at 11:06pm
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At blizzcon they had the WC3 and SC Finals.  They said they could do over 500 commands a minute.  Most of the online players are not that good but have everything down

FIVE HUNDRED?!?!
Wow... I'm speechless...
Hey do you know if there are any vids of the finals on the internet?
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  Quote Nomad Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 Feb 2008 at 11:09pm
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Definitely play through the single player story lines. Think of them as the online tutorial. For an RTS noob, you may want to consider the Battle for Middle-Earth games. If you're not into the lord of the rings story line, you may not like the game, but it definitely has an easy learning curve. Another great RTS would be the Dawn of War series, but it's extremely difficult online. 

Awright I will for sure! It'll be hard to step away from the online arena (even though I get beat up pretty bad) but I'll do it Big%20smile Well I am into the lord of the rings storyline so I may just have to check that one out. Oh and I DL'ed the Dawn of War and Soulstorm demos from Steam and I really liked them! But I could see how they would be tough online WinkLOL
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  Quote Dashuu Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 08 Feb 2008 at 2:57pm
Yeah Nomad, ever since they added the unit limitations the online game came alive! It used to be about who had the biggest guns, now it's about who has the best strategy.
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  Quote Nomad Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 08 Feb 2008 at 5:01pm
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Yeah Nomad, ever since they added the unit limitations the online game came alive! It used to be about who had the biggest guns, now it's about who has the best strategy.

Ahh really? Yeah I like the game uses a kind of terrain system where for instance, if you are in a crater, you have more cover than the dudes standing on the street.
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  Quote kira bang Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Feb 2008 at 10:43pm
i will get starcraft and warcraft batllechests and  c&c 3 
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  Quote Nomad Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Feb 2008 at 11:50pm
Originally posted by kira bang

i will get starcraft and warcraft batllechests and  c&c 3 

Awesome! Although you may want to think about C&C3 a bit more. Don't take my word for it, but I've been looking at the game more and lots of people are saying that there is not a lot of strategy involved, just basically who can build a mass of tanks the fastest etc. So that may be what you want, or it may not be. Just sayin' ;)
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  Quote kira bang Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Feb 2008 at 5:44pm
all right i will look into it. thanks for the feed back
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  Quote Nomad Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 11 Feb 2008 at 5:12pm
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all right i will look into it. thanks for the feed back

No problem!
Hit me up on Battle.net when you get the WarCraft 3 Battlechest! Wink
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  Quote ncavig Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Feb 2008 at 6:05pm
Look me up to. My name on there is ncavig, but I have a lot of aliases because it's so hard to find games once you win. My buddy and I held on the #1 spot for 2v2's for a few years and we play for fun now. Can give you guys some tips Smile

My current name is digitalgrin which I'll probably be on for the next few days until I stop finding games.

Btw, the 500 commands a minute is a bit exaggerated. Most pro's go for about 150 key strokes a minute. The max I've seen is 200ish and most of the time people spam key strokes and alternate between binded units to get that # up. It's a pitiful sign of skill the higher that number is.


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  Quote Solo Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Feb 2008 at 6:49pm

higher apm doesnt mean a better player

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  Quote Nomad Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 21 Feb 2008 at 11:57pm
Originally posted by Solo

higher apm doesnt mean a better player


And that's coming from my boi Solo! WinkTongue
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That was my point of the "spamming" comment Smile
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  Quote Nomad Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 22 Feb 2008 at 7:23pm
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That was my point of the "spamming" comment Smile

Yep! But yeah man I'll add you to my friends list for WC3 Smile I'm pretty much a beginner though Cry "digitalgrin" right?
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  Quote Solo Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 22 Feb 2008 at 9:16pm
I started playing DOTA in wc3 again, its so addicting, nomad you might like it if you haven't tried it already.
 
Go to custom games search dota usa/ca something like that give it a shot
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  Quote Nomad Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 23 Feb 2008 at 2:48pm
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I started playing DOTA in wc3 again, its so addicting, nomad you might like it if you haven't tried it already.
 
Go to custom games search dota usa/ca something like that give it a shot

Ahhh really? Yeah man I have a friend who really loves that game! He keeps telling me to try it out but I haven't gotten the chance yet. But yeah next time I'm on I'll have to try it out Smile
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Originally posted by ncavig

That was my point of the "spamming" comment Smile

Yep! But yeah man I'll add you to my friends list for WC3 Smile I'm pretty much a beginner though Cry "digitalgrin" right?


Yeah I suppose...I make new names all the time since it's so hard to find games once you win a few in a row. If you want, we have a vent server as well we chill in when we play. That's probably a better way to get ahold of me.
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