ASUS PA238Q 23 vs Dell UltraSharp U2312HM 23"Post Date: 2012-03-16 |
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Dsnewb210
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Topic: ASUS PA238Q 23 vs Dell UltraSharp U2312HM 23" Posted: 16 Mar 2012 at 12:50pm |
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Looking for a good ips panel for doing some mid level graphics/editing work.When dealing with graphics work its all about color accuracy and reproduction...
Ive read quite a few revies and haven't been able to conclude which would make a better monitor for my needs. I will be doing a dual monitor setup with them, so I would like to make sure I am happy with what I get. Anyone have any idea which monitor I should purchase?
Edited by Dsnewb210 - 16 Mar 2012 at 12:52pm |
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Dsnewb210
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Where are my monitor experts?
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Tidgxor
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Quote Reply Posted: 17 Mar 2012 at 5:33pm | |||
Ultrasharp
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bprat22
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Quote Reply Posted: 17 Mar 2012 at 5:43pm | |||
I second that.
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Dsnewb210
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Quote Reply Posted: 17 Mar 2012 at 5:50pm | |||
Color reproduction on the asus is pretty amazing... 1.07billion colours from its 30-bit colour depth.
The dell with its 18-bit colour depth can only manage to produce 16.7million colours. So I know the asus has it beat in that regard...
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bprat22
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Quote Reply Posted: 17 Mar 2012 at 5:53pm | |||
I didn't know there were 18 million colors. Must be that class I missed.
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bprat22
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Quote Reply Posted: 18 Mar 2012 at 4:00am | |||
Just read some reviews on the Asus PA238 and it compares to the Dell's in gaming, some liking the screen a bit better. The much higher color needs special hardware, etc to make use of. For gaming it's not noticable. You'd know more than me, but I'm sure editing, graphics, etc would welcome the color.
Let's face it...Dell isn't the only game in town, it's just one we know and can recommend with confidence.
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Tidgxor
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Quote Reply Posted: 18 Mar 2012 at 3:52pm | |||
I recommend Dell's not only because of the hardware, as mentioned there are better hardware-based options out there in regards to monitors, but because of the warranty support. In my career I've been responsible for countless warranty claims for more companies than I can shake a stick at. When it comes to monitors Dell has some of the best exchange/repair/etc. policies I've ever encountered. Literally, I can think of only one head-banging instance in regards to their monitors, while I have too many to list for other companies (And I include Asus in this list).
But, if its pure color depth you are looking for, and need it enough that the variations between the two actually matters, then yes, the Asus is the better monitor. As I'm sure you've probably seen in your research, the Dell uses A-FRC, which can be somewhat problematic if you need ultra-high end professional reproduction. Whichever way you go, be sure to shop around for the best price! |
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Dsnewb210
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Quote Reply Posted: 21 Mar 2012 at 12:04pm | |||
Decided to go with the Asus pa238q, I will let you guys know how it turns out. Ive always purchased dell monitors but wasn't very impressed with the 2408wfp I purchased awhile back.
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bprat22
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Quote Reply Posted: 21 Mar 2012 at 2:14pm | |||
I think you'll love it. Feedback would be great.
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dspillett
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Quote Reply Posted: 27 Mar 2012 at 4:00pm | |||
There are a fair few people saying the Asus has bad backlight bleed and that the Dell is better in that regard, though there are just as many saying the Dell has the same problem and suggesting the Asus for the same reason - so that matter is probably a draw. I think my choice will come down to colour and cost. Even people picking on the PA238Q's backlight compliment its colour quality otherwise, but the Dell is 35ukp cheaper.
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Dsnewb210
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Quote Reply Posted: 28 Mar 2012 at 9:08am | |||
Recieved my asus pa238q monitors and I couldn't be happier! No dead pixels, no backlight bleed and beautiful color representation.
I am glad I gave asus a shot, anyone doubting the panel I suggest giving it a go.
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bprat22
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Quote Reply Posted: 28 Mar 2012 at 9:35am | |||
Nice.. Thanks for the feedback. The review I read gave it high marks.
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FrankW
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Quote Reply Posted: 28 Mar 2012 at 1:37pm | |||
Hi Dsnewb210,
Thanks for letting us know what you think about it. I am a bit late to this party but I doubt that the picture of the Asus or the Dell or any of the other low end IPS screens has a better picture than the other. As far as I know they are all still using the same LG IPS screen. They all display 16.7mil colors. The Asus does have a 30bit lookup table but it still only displays 16.7mil colors. At least that is what their site says. Anyway, enjoy your new monitor. Frank Edited by FrankW - 28 Mar 2012 at 1:40pm |
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dspillett
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Quote Reply Posted: 28 Mar 2012 at 5:14pm | |||
I'll have to hunt through my history and see if I can find the sites that opened the thing to find out exactly which screen it uses to see if it is the same one Dell use, some other 6-bit IPS screen, or something else... |
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FrankW
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Quote Reply Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 10:35am | |||
I think the Dell is 8bit/color or 24bit True Color giving 16.7 million colors.
Frank |
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dspillett
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Quote Reply Posted: 06 Apr 2012 at 7:13pm | |||
As of this morning (about 12 hours ago) I have one of each sat on my desk, so I'll throw down my initial assessment in case it helps anyone else trying to make a choice. I've not spent much time tweaking them as I had other kit to assemble and install (I'm building a new desktop, new OS and the works, and upgrading the old one for other uses, and making a third machine with the excess parts and a few other spares).
I'm happy with both screens though based on today's impressions I prefer the Asus a little. Neither are perfect, but they are at least as near as I think I can reasonably expect at these prices so both seem to be good value for money IMO. I think the main deciding point if you are trying to chose between the two will be if you want the better colour overall and slightly better physical package (in which case get the Asus) or if you want to save a little money, have less potential backlight issues, and don't mind not-quite-as-good stand and main unit design (in which case go for the Dell). One little warning: the Asus didn't auto-detect which input was in use (DP in my case) so I panicked slightly (have I got something wrong? or is something broken?!) when first turning the new machine on - it has an SSD instead of any spinning metal and its fans are surprisingly quite compared the machines near-by so I got nothing on screen and no significant sound and though it just wasn't working at all! Edited by dspillett - 06 Apr 2012 at 7:29pm |
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FrankW
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Quote Reply Posted: 07 Apr 2012 at 1:20pm | |||
Hi dspillett,
Thanks for you review and comparisons. I have to admit I assumed you would be biased for the Asus due to your strong feelings about it. However, after reviewing your comments I think you did a great job of being fair. Good job. I understand your comments about the stands. When I was looking for an IPS monitor I picked the NEC due to its much better stand than what was on the Dell at the time. Frank |
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RobartGilbert
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When I was looking for an IPS monitor I picked the NEC due to its much better stand than what was on the Dell at the time.
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