First time DSer; looking at Vanquish 1-3Post Date: 2014-01-12 |
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WhiskeyGuy
Newbie Joined: 12 Jan 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 8 |
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Topic: First time DSer; looking at Vanquish 1-3 Posted: 12 Jan 2014 at 11:34am |
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[$1,000 max] Expectations: [I plan to run two monitors at 1920 resolution.] Usage: [Primarily MMORPG gaming, although I will watch some movies and do some work on it (Word documents, PDFs, many open web pages). I'd like a computer that runs WoW, Mass Effect, Diablo 3, Elder Scrolls Online, and Wildstar (which I expect/hope to play the most of these games) at constant 60 FPS or higher on "High" graphics settings.] Saved Ticket #: [Please Type Here] Specifications: [Please Type Here] Hello Community, I have an Alienware m17x R3 that I bought two years ago. It already cannot run WoW at higher than "Low" settings without serious FPS fluctuations. Ditto for Diablo 3. A costly mistake, but lesson learned. I've read glowing reviews of DS, so I'm hoping to clarify a few things before deciding which system to get. I'm looking into the Vanquish level 1, 2, and 3. I anticipate playing mostly MMORPGS with this computer, particularly Wildstar, and I'd like to run those games at "High" settings with a constant 60 FPS or higher (I sit quite close to my monitor and therefore notice drops below 60). 1920 resolution and two monitors. I'd appreciate any advice, anecdotes, or benchmarks that speak to these particular games or similar games. Also, I have never had a cooling system, and I notice the L3 features one. Will this cooling system require more maintenance/upkeep/cleaning than a system without one? I am NOT computer savvy--never built my own machine and I rarely tinker with my computers' hardware. Thank you in advance. Edited by WhiskeyGuy - 12 Jan 2014 at 11:37am |
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bprat22
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Quote Reply Posted: 12 Jan 2014 at 1:11pm | |
Hi WhiskeyGuy... Welcome to the forums.
The Vanquish 2 is the least I would consider for gaming. It is only a dual core cpu but has a very good R9-270 video card. Medium to high gaming in general is possible, depending on the game. The Vanquish 3 would be my pick for gaming on your monitor with another monitor open for other tasks. It's gtx 760 is about 10% better gaming than R9-270 , plus has a 4 core cpu, after market cpu cooler and a stronger psu. The Hyper 212 cooler is excellent. Being an air cooler, it's no upkeep, and little to go wrong. Just metal fins dissipating the heat with a fan for cooling. Hope this helps. You won't have any problem running Diablo 3 on your monitor at high or better with high fps with either the Vanquish 2 or 3. The other games I'm not sure but don't see any issues. If you game on both monitors, still good but more rendering for the rig. Edited by bprat22 - 12 Jan 2014 at 1:30pm |
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WhiskeyGuy
Newbie Joined: 12 Jan 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 8 |
Quote Reply Posted: 12 Jan 2014 at 5:40pm | |
Thanks for your thoughts, bprat. I'll look more closely at the level 3
On a related note, do I need to upgrade my monitor so that I can see everything I'd be paying for in a new desktop? My current monitor is: http://reviews.cnet.com/lcd-monitors/dell-s2330mx-23-inch/4505-3174_7-34859190.html Edited by WhiskeyGuy - 12 Jan 2014 at 5:59pm |
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ArkansasWoman777
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Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jan 2014 at 3:21am | |
I think the monitor you have will probably do just fine with your new desktop. No need in changing a perfectly good monitor judging by the monitor specs unless you really want/need to upgrade.
Edited by ArkansasWoman777 - 13 Jan 2014 at 8:24am |
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WhiskeyGuy
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Quote Reply Posted: 02 Mar 2014 at 10:40pm | |
Dear Community,
I pulled the trigger and bought a Vanquish 3! Typing from it now! I had a few quick questions I'm hoping someone might have thoughts on. When I first turned on my computer, I noticed that my monitor would now show the desktop while I had my HDMI cable plugged into the computer. However, when I instead used a DVI cable and plugged it into the graphics card, the monitor worked great. My questions: (1) is there no way to use HDMI (there is no HDMI on my graphics card)? (2) which type of cable is "best"--DVI, HDMI, something else? (3) I'm currently using a cable that has DVI/HDMI ends with a HDMI to DVI converter on one end. Am I limiting my graphics potential by relying on a converter? (4) I'm thinking of getting a second monitor--do you recommend any good for gaming? I currently use this dell and am eyeing this Azus--would it be an upgrade? http://www.amazon.com/Asus-VS247H-P-23-6-Inch-Full-HD-LED-Lit/dp/B005BZNDS0/ref=lp_1292115011_1_1/182-8029993-7265820?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1393829203&sr=1-1 http://www.dell.com/ed/business/p/dell-s2330mx/pd Thank you! Edited by WhiskeyGuy - 02 Mar 2014 at 11:28pm |
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bprat22
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Quote Reply Posted: 03 Mar 2014 at 3:04am | |
Your gtx 760 doesn't have a hdmi port? Make sure it's not covered by a plastic cap.
Either hdmi or dvi work for most. Hdmi passes audio and dvi doesn't but other than that, shouldn't matter. If you were plugging into the motherboard's hdmi port then that explains why it didn't work. With a video card the motherboard ports are disabled. |
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danjw1
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Quote Reply Posted: 03 Mar 2014 at 7:51am | |
It maybe a mini-HDMI or micro-HDMI, which would usually come with an mini-HDMI to HDMI adapter. Here is a photo of the different types of HDMI connectors: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:HDMI_Connector.jpg
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fstcvc
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Quote Reply Posted: 03 Mar 2014 at 8:21am | |
It should have a regular HDMI port on it. I don't think I've seen a 760 without it...
Ports are as follows from left to right: Display Port, HDMI, DVI-D (top), DVI-I (bottom) Edited by fstcvc - 03 Mar 2014 at 8:23am |
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WhiskeyGuy
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Quote Reply Posted: 03 Mar 2014 at 9:28am | |
Thanks for your help. You're right: there is an HDMI slot in the video card.
Are the video ports in the motherboard useless? |
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Snaike
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Quote Reply Posted: 03 Mar 2014 at 9:34am | |
I believe that's what bprat was referring to when he said:
...and I'm certainly glad that you asked that question before I had to... thank you.
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bprat22
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Quote Reply Posted: 03 Mar 2014 at 10:07am | |
Yep, the mobo's video ports nestled among the USB, audio, etc are disabled when a graphic card is installed. It is a good question and does come up.
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danjw1
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Quote Reply Posted: 03 Mar 2014 at 10:15am | |
No, they should work, as long as you have the CPUs GPU is enabled in the BIOS and the appropriate video driver is installed for that GPU. Mostly, people won't use the CPU's GPU when a discrete graphics card is installed. Though if you want to use Quicksync for transcoding video, it can be useful to have it on. Haswell had a regression in regard to Quicksync, but older Sandy/Ivy Bridge CPUs work well in this mode. Edited by danjw1 - 03 Mar 2014 at 10:23am |
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WhiskeyGuy
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Quote Reply Posted: 03 Mar 2014 at 12:39pm | |
Thanks all! You've saved me a great deal of time.
I have one final question: now that I've moved from a laptop, I'm in the market for a second monitor to use to browse the web, gchat, etc. while gaming on my main. My current monitor is this Dell and I'm wondering if I should upgrade to a better gaming monitor, such as the Asus below, or just a very basic monitor to use as my secondary monitor and keep my Dell as my main. Dell: http://www.dell.com/...dell-s2330mx/pd Asus: http://goo.gl/XR5pwH |
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Counsel
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Quote Reply Posted: 03 Mar 2014 at 1:18pm | |
Unless you're very into high-speed PvP in your MMOs, I don't think you'll see a host of benefits from going with a high-refresh gaming monitor (120/144Hz); they're generally more useful for those who playing twitch-style FPS titles such as Call of Duty or Team Fortress 2. If you do upgrade, I'd recommend a modern IPS display with decent input lag and g2g ratings, such as the P2414H. (http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_p2414h.htm). This should give you all the responsiveness you need for RPG gaming, while giving a big boost to image quality - IPS does have significantly better color and viewing angles than your typical TN display. |
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ArkansasWoman777
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Quote Reply Posted: 03 Mar 2014 at 7:13pm | |
You can still play Tf2 on a 60hz monitor though |
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Counsel
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Quote Reply Posted: 05 Mar 2014 at 10:56am | |
Absolutely. And honestly, unless you're an FPS junkie with serious twitch reflexes, you're unlikely to get any improvement in your game results between a top-grade 60Hz IPS and a gamer-focused 120/144Hz TN. |
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