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bullet Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 7:42am
ohh nice
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bullet Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 11:03am
Definitely looking forward to seeing the results of this new system..! Strong
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bullet Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 2:02pm
How much would it cost to upgrade my Hailstorm to this new stage of cooling, or how much would it cost to upgrade to the newly modded case with all my current parts?
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bullet Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 2:04pm
Well price talk isn't happening yet, so I guess ill have to wait 2-3 weeks for that answer? Oopslol
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bullet Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 2:52pm
Alex,
 
I noticed the VREG Temp was at 75C.  Did you have to do anything special to that board to get this temp?  I am running the older version of that board with an I920 running at 3.9GHZ and LC (Digital Storm build).  I added a small fan for the VREG and my VREG temp at 100% load is now 72C (was much higher).  I had planned on trying to overclock the processor to 4.2GHZ but I am concerned about the VREG temp.
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bullet Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 3:04pm
I imagine it will be a single TEC, multi TEC's are really tough to get the kinks worked out.  so, assuming a single TEC, a single TEC will cool around 120-140 watts, so idle temps will be great, and could be super cold, if they let it run 100%, but then condensation would be an issue.  also light CPU usage will also have great temps, but once the heat load exceeds the TECs output the temps will start to rise, and temps won't be much better than a really good water cooling system.
Now multi TEC's in one loop, are very difficult to get running correctly, and each TEC must be cycled to get decent efficiency, I have seen large arrays of TECs working correctly, but it is really tough to do.
But say 4 TECs on a CPU system, could keep temps very low, but then again condensation will be the hurdle. CPU and water temps scale linearly, so a decent water cooling system will have the water temps 10C above ambient temps, that would mean that if they could cool the water to ambient, you could see a 10C temps decrease at 100% load.
a single TEC is fairly in-expensive, but somewhat complicated, and a built in controller, that will also controll the fans will add to the price quite a bit, a multi TEC would be very expensive, and really, really complicated. lol
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bullet Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 3:06pm
Originally posted by Asangard

Alex,
 
I noticed the VREG Temp was at 75C.  Did you have to do anything special to that board to get this temp?  I am running the older version of that board with an I920 running at 3.9GHZ and LC (Digital Storm build).  I added a small fan for the VREG and my VREG temp at 100% load is now 72C (was much higher).  I had planned on trying to overclock the processor to 4.2GHZ but I am concerned about the VREG temp.
V reg temps would be fixed with a full motherboard cooling block. then they should stay in the 40C-50C range
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bullet Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 5:13pm
You know what would really suck Big%20Smile  Getting down to the day before they release the new offerings then having a fatal flaw rear its ugly head ....  after waiting and waiting to order  Chilling  Sometimes my weeks just go that way.
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bullet Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 6:31pm
This cooling system is going to be part of a complete package we offer as a certain model. It will be very difficult trying to upgrade an existing system with this pacakge. The costs alone will be very high. This type of system is designed for the very high-end crowd.
 
@MagiK, the system is currently going under testing to ensure it's perfect before we release this to customers.
 
@justin.kerr, just wait and see, that's all I can say bud Cool
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bullet Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 6:50pm
Originally posted by Alex

This cooling system is going to be part of a complete package we offer as a certain model. It will be very difficult trying to upgrade an existing system with this pacakge. The costs alone will be very high. This type of system is designed for the very high-end crowd.
 
@MagiK, the system is currently going under testing to ensure it's perfect before we release this to customers.
 
@justin.kerr, just wait and see, that's all I can say bud Cool
I'm holding you to two or three weeks Alex Big%20Smile
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bullet Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 7:15pm
wait wait wait, so it's not that customizable, and it's a prebuilt technically then....I foresee many great reviews to come from PCMag, MaximumPC, etc., since they all seem to cater to a prebuilt esque rating system for the common consumer....Wink
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bullet Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 7:17pm
Scared Starts to worry when he says VERY expensive..... I didnt like the idea of plunking down 16k for that other companies solution.....hope this isnt THAT far out in the hinterlands of deep pockets. Scared
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bullet Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 7:45pm
wow it sounds really really awesome! definately not in my budget but still sounds really cool.
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bullet Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 7:56pm
heh, it's sorta like origin's massively ridiculous LC'd 360/PC combo. you can buy it, but really, it's just a mega publicity stunt in disguise to show the rest who's boss. aint that right Wink
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bullet Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 8:11pm
matters if it is a TEC water chiller, or a direct mount TEC, the TEC blocks are around $150.0 more than a regular CPU water block, the rest of the water cooling would be the same cost, and then you have to have a seperate power supply to run the TECs, then the PWM controller, and misc sensors, so $500-$900 more than the current top end cooling would be my guess.
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bullet Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 8:11pm
Actually, this isn't "mega publicity stunt."

We're designing this to offer to our high-end customers. We have a lot of customers that build high end systems >$7K and all of them try to build the best system possible. Yet, they never are able to achieve ultra low temps or super high overclocks because they haven't had the time to test various items individually. This is where we come in. We're using our experience in offering a system where these type of customers don't need to waste time researching/guessing. We will now soon be able to offer them a solution that we've already done all the hard work on.

This is something we want to offer to those customers. This isn't just a publicity stunt.

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bullet Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 8:12pm
Originally posted by MagiK

Scared Starts to worry when he says VERY expensive..... I didnt like the idea of plunking down 16k for that other companies solution.....hope this isnt THAT far out in the hinterlands of deep pockets. Scared


Our goal is to offer a system around the $6K-$8K range that has this setup and practically the best of everything inside... 980X, SSD's, three GTX 480's in SLI, etc...
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bullet Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 8:18pm
o.O.....I spoke too soon then. Heh, that looks REALLY promising then, since a 980X SSDs and tri-480s already is within the good $5000 range. 
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bullet Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 8:19pm
Originally posted by ablahblah

wait wait wait, so it's not that customizable, and it's a prebuilt technically then....I foresee many great reviews to come from PCMag, MaximumPC, etc., since they all seem to cater to a prebuilt esque rating system for the common consumer....Wink

Preconfigured in the sense that, you can't change some items. Such as the PSU, Chassis, Motherboard, etc... We're going to keep them as only the high-end top options. We want to ensure consistency with the new line of PCs so that we can provide the same cooling and performance results.
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bullet Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 11:03pm
DroolingGood!!! Im back to the excited stage again instead of the scared stage  Wink 
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bullet Posted: 21 Sep 2010 at 4:53am
You know what would be really interesting;
 
Offer this pre-configured cooling/chasis setup and let the customer put some of the different CPU's in the build.
 
For example, a i7 950 CPU and a single GTX 480. If you are getting those kinds of temps on the 980X, imagine a cheaper i7 950 and just overclock the hell out of it. I think this would appeal to more people and enthusiasts alike Drooling
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bullet Posted: 21 Sep 2010 at 9:14am
980x puts out about the same heat as a 950, with equal overclocks
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bullet Posted: 21 Sep 2010 at 11:42am
Wow.. nice Alex..

Would this new cooling system be availbe for workstation builds for the SR-2 board?

and Sarah thanks for the info the last time i called..
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bullet Posted: 21 Sep 2010 at 11:46am
then why not have it as an option?
btw, can't wait!!
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bullet Posted: 21 Sep 2010 at 11:55am
Just a guess, but size, cost, time to build/test that is my SWAG
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bullet Posted: 21 Sep 2010 at 11:08pm
We've been fine tuning the system and have achieved even better temps!
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bullet Posted: 22 Sep 2010 at 2:09am
hrm.. no word Alex on if this will be avaliable on the high end workstation builds with the evga SR-2 ...?
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bullet Posted: 22 Sep 2010 at 8:28am
Im kind of interested in what MoBo options are available with this as well.  I am kind of partial to the Asus Rampage III Extreme and the Gigabyte UD9  but Im not inflexible on the point, it isn't make or break.
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bullet Posted: 22 Sep 2010 at 3:06pm
Sorry:

@trinimoses, yes that will be an option. But we won't be able to achieve high overclocks with that motherboard since it's two CPUs outputting a ton of thermal heat and the fact that the motherboard isn't as easy to overclock as a regular X58.

@MagiK, we're planning to offer both the Asus Rampage III and the EVGA Classified X58.
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bullet Posted: 22 Sep 2010 at 3:37pm
Big%20Smile You just keep making me a very happy future customer thanks for that info Alex!
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bullet Posted: 23 Sep 2010 at 10:27pm
hmm, you know what, would you guys be able to also give us a quick temp rereading using Realtemp/Coretemp? i'm sure you're already aware of the preference of the advanced users on the forum toward those programs for temperature accuracy,
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bullet Posted: 23 Sep 2010 at 10:29pm
is coretemp accurate? because i'm using it on my laptop (not from ds) and it says it runs around 104 degrees Celsius.
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bullet Posted: 23 Sep 2010 at 10:46pm
o.O....try realtemp...Coretemp SHOULD be accurate...
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bullet Posted: 23 Sep 2010 at 11:01pm
lol 104? screenshot plz
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bullet Posted: 23 Sep 2010 at 11:47pm
Originally posted by ablahblah

o.O....try realtemp...Coretemp SHOULD be accurate...

realteamp says its not compadable with my processor. thats prob why coretemp isn't working. but my laptop occasionally goes past the temp limit on the mobo and shuts itself off but got a laptop cooler and without it runs very hot.
oh and !ender heres a screenshot this is without the laptop cooler and with it is 85-100. without it is 90-110 as it shows as max temp (which is auto shutdown temp right?)

Also as a little side note you can't have it in your lap or it burns you and it has one fan hooked up to ac that runs pretty slow and that too will burn you even more then touching the bottom of the laptop will.

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