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al3xLJ
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Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 7:42am |
ohh nice
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rholyrag
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Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 11:03am |
Definitely looking forward to seeing the results of this new system..!
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WardTheSteak
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Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 2:02pm |
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How much would it cost to upgrade my Hailstorm to this new stage of cooling, or how much would it cost to upgrade to the newly modded case with all my current parts?
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WardTheSteak
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Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 2:04pm |
Well price talk isn't happening yet, so I guess ill have to wait 2-3 weeks for that answer?  lol
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Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 2:52pm |
Alex,
I noticed the VREG Temp was at 75C. Did you have to do anything special to that board to get this temp? I am running the older version of that board with an I920 running at 3.9GHZ and LC (Digital Storm build). I added a small fan for the VREG and my VREG temp at 100% load is now 72C (was much higher). I had planned on trying to overclock the processor to 4.2GHZ but I am concerned about the VREG temp.
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justin.kerr
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Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 3:04pm |
I imagine it will be a single TEC, multi TEC's are really tough to get the kinks worked out. so, assuming a single TEC, a single TEC will cool around 120-140 watts, so idle temps will be great, and could be super cold, if they let it run 100%, but then condensation would be an issue. also light CPU usage will also have great temps, but once the heat load exceeds the TECs output the temps will start to rise, and temps won't be much better than a really good water cooling system.
Now multi TEC's in one loop, are very difficult to get running correctly, and each TEC must be cycled to get decent efficiency, I have seen large arrays of TECs working correctly, but it is really tough to do.
But say 4 TECs on a CPU system, could keep temps very low, but then again condensation will be the hurdle. CPU and water temps scale linearly, so a decent water cooling system will have the water temps 10C above ambient temps, that would mean that if they could cool the water to ambient, you could see a 10C temps decrease at 100% load.
a single TEC is fairly in-expensive, but somewhat complicated, and a built in controller, that will also controll the fans will add to the price quite a bit, a multi TEC would be very expensive, and really, really complicated. lol
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justin.kerr
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Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 3:06pm |
Originally posted by Asangard
Alex,
I noticed the VREG Temp was at 75C. Did you have to do anything special to that board to get this temp? I am running the older version of that board with an I920 running at 3.9GHZ and LC (Digital Storm build). I added a small fan for the VREG and my VREG temp at 100% load is now 72C (was much higher). I had planned on trying to overclock the processor to 4.2GHZ but I am concerned about the VREG temp. |
V reg temps would be fixed with a full motherboard cooling block. then they should stay in the 40C-50C range
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MagiK
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Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 5:13pm |
You know what would really suck  Getting down to the day before they release the new offerings then having a fatal flaw rear its ugly head .... after waiting and waiting to order  Sometimes my weeks just go that way.
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Alex
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Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 6:31pm |
This cooling system is going to be part of a complete package we offer as a certain model. It will be very difficult trying to upgrade an existing system with this pacakge. The costs alone will be very high. This type of system is designed for the very high-end crowd.
@MagiK, the system is currently going under testing to ensure it's perfect before we release this to customers.
@justin.kerr, just wait and see, that's all I can say bud 
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McStrav
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Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 6:50pm |
Originally posted by Alex
This cooling system is going to be part of a complete package we offer as a certain model. It will be very difficult trying to upgrade an existing system with this pacakge. The costs alone will be very high. This type of system is designed for the very high-end crowd.
@MagiK, the system is currently going under testing to ensure it's perfect before we release this to customers.
@justin.kerr, just wait and see, that's all I can say bud  |
I'm holding you to two or three weeks Alex
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Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 7:15pm |
wait wait wait, so it's not that customizable, and it's a prebuilt technically then....I foresee many great reviews to come from PCMag, MaximumPC, etc., since they all seem to cater to a prebuilt esque rating system for the common consumer....
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Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 7:17pm |
 Starts to worry when he says VERY expensive..... I didnt like the idea of plunking down 16k for that other companies solution.....hope this isnt THAT far out in the hinterlands of deep pockets.
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Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 7:45pm |
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wow it sounds really really awesome! definately not in my budget but still sounds really cool.
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ablahblah
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Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 7:56pm |
heh, it's sorta like origin's massively ridiculous LC'd 360/PC combo. you can buy it, but really, it's just a mega publicity stunt in disguise to show the rest who's boss. aint that right
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Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 8:11pm |
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matters if it is a TEC water chiller, or a direct mount TEC, the TEC blocks are around $150.0 more than a regular CPU water block, the rest of the water cooling would be the same cost, and then you have to have a seperate power supply to run the TECs, then the PWM controller, and misc sensors, so $500-$900 more than the current top end cooling would be my guess.
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Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 8:11pm |
Actually, this isn't "mega publicity stunt."
We're designing this to offer to our high-end customers. We have a lot of customers that build high end systems >$7K and all of them try to build the best system possible. Yet, they never are able to achieve ultra low temps or super high overclocks because they haven't had the time to test various items individually. This is where we come in. We're using our experience in offering a system where these type of customers don't need to waste time researching/guessing. We will now soon be able to offer them a solution that we've already done all the hard work on.
This is something we want to offer to those customers. This isn't just a publicity stunt. 
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Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 8:12pm |
Originally posted by MagiK
Starts to worry when he says VERY expensive..... I didnt like the idea of plunking down 16k for that other companies solution.....hope this isnt THAT far out in the hinterlands of deep pockets.Â
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Our goal is to offer a system around the $6K-$8K range that has this setup and practically the best of everything inside... 980X, SSD's, three GTX 480's in SLI, etc...
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Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 8:18pm |
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o.O.....I spoke too soon then. Heh, that looks REALLY promising then, since a 980X SSDs and tri-480s already is within the good $5000 range.
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Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 8:19pm |
Originally posted by ablahblah
wait wait wait, so it's not that customizable, and it's a prebuilt technically then....I foresee many great reviews to come from PCMag, MaximumPC, etc., since they all seem to cater to a prebuilt esque rating system for the common consumer....
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Preconfigured in the sense that, you can't change some items. Such as the PSU, Chassis, Motherboard, etc... We're going to keep them as only the high-end top options. We want to ensure consistency with the new line of PCs so that we can provide the same cooling and performance results.
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Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 11:03pm |
 Good!!! Im back to the excited stage again instead of the scared stage
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Posted: 21 Sep 2010 at 4:53am |
You know what would be really interesting;
Offer this pre-configured cooling/chasis setup and let the customer put some of the different CPU's in the build.
For example, a i7 950 CPU and a single GTX 480. If you are getting those kinds of temps on the 980X, imagine a cheaper i7 950 and just overclock the hell out of it. I think this would appeal to more people and enthusiasts alike 
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Posted: 21 Sep 2010 at 9:14am |
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980x puts out about the same heat as a 950, with equal overclocks
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Posted: 21 Sep 2010 at 11:42am |
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Wow.. nice Alex..
Would this new cooling system be availbe for workstation builds for the SR-2 board?
and Sarah thanks for the info the last time i called..
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al3xLJ
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Posted: 21 Sep 2010 at 11:46am |
then why not have it as an option?
btw, can't wait!!
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Posted: 21 Sep 2010 at 11:55am |
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Just a guess, but size, cost, time to build/test that is my SWAG
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Posted: 21 Sep 2010 at 11:08pm |
We've been fine tuning the system and have achieved even better temps!
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Posted: 22 Sep 2010 at 2:09am |
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hrm.. no word Alex on if this will be avaliable on the high end workstation builds with the evga SR-2 ...?
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Posted: 22 Sep 2010 at 8:28am |
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Im kind of interested in what MoBo options are available with this as well. I am kind of partial to the Asus Rampage III Extreme and the Gigabyte UD9 but Im not inflexible on the point, it isn't make or break.
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Posted: 22 Sep 2010 at 3:06pm |
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@trinimoses, yes that will be an option. But we won't be able to achieve high overclocks with that motherboard since it's two CPUs outputting a ton of thermal heat and the fact that the motherboard isn't as easy to overclock as a regular X58.
@MagiK, we're planning to offer both the Asus Rampage III and the EVGA Classified X58.
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Posted: 22 Sep 2010 at 3:37pm |
 You just keep making me a very happy future customer thanks for that info Alex!
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Posted: 23 Sep 2010 at 10:27pm |
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hmm, you know what, would you guys be able to also give us a quick temp rereading using Realtemp/Coretemp? i'm sure you're already aware of the preference of the advanced users on the forum toward those programs for temperature accuracy,
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Posted: 23 Sep 2010 at 10:29pm |
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is coretemp accurate? because i'm using it on my laptop (not from ds) and it says it runs around 104 degrees Celsius.
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ablahblah
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Posted: 23 Sep 2010 at 10:46pm |
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o.O....try realtemp...Coretemp SHOULD be accurate...
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Posted: 23 Sep 2010 at 11:01pm |
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lol 104? screenshot plz
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maxyme
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Posted: 23 Sep 2010 at 11:47pm |
Originally posted by ablahblah
o.O....try realtemp...Coretemp SHOULD be accurate...
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realteamp says its not compadable with my processor. thats prob why coretemp isn't working. but my laptop occasionally goes past the temp limit on the mobo and shuts itself off but got a laptop cooler and without it runs very hot.
oh and !ender heres a screenshot this is without the laptop cooler and with it is 85-100. without it is 90-110 as it shows as max temp (which is auto shutdown temp right?)
Also as a little side note you can't have it in your lap or it burns you and it has one fan hooked up to ac that runs pretty slow and that too will burn you even more then touching the bottom of the laptop will.
Edited by maxyme - 24 Sep 2010 at 12:31am
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