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    Posted: 27 Feb 2012 at 4:35pm
Hello,

I'm looking at building a 2700K system and was wondering what the differences between chipsets that are available would be. I will be SLI'ing two 570's and may be doing some mild over-clocking. Also, a motherboard recommendation would be appreciated.

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H55 - Mainstream, takes advantage of integrated graphics, barely any overclocking potential in terms of hardware.
P55 - Higher end, disables integrated, allows better overclocking with some boards
Z68 - Like P55, allows SSD caching to make a pseudo ssd/hdd combo I THINK...not sure. Key point is that some have Lucid Virtu built in, which allows use of any integrated card with the onboard. Can be set to either swap on the fly like nVidia Optimus I think, or can be set to use the CPU strictly to optimize some video decoding. I've a friend with it, he says it's kinda buggy with his 6870 though.
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Don't waste your money on the 2700k, all you are doing is paying extra money for a higher stock OC from Intel. The chip is exactly the same as the 2600k, the 2700k just has a 0.1GHz higher stock clock but costs $50 more. Get the 2600k and let digital storm OC it for you.

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  Quote Aroberts0820 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Mar 2012 at 10:51am
Thanks for the replies. Is SLI a bad idea for these? Do any of these chipsets offer 16 & 16 pci-e?

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Hi Aroberts0820... Sli and pci lanes are both motherboard depend.  Whether you pick the i7-2600k or i5-2500k, etc doesn't matter.
 
The Asus P8P67 Deluxe and P8Z68 V-Pro among others will allow sli but only at x8x8.  
 
You'd need the X79 mobo's to go 16x16. 
 
Sli is a great idea for these boards, as long as the right psu is picked, like the Corsair 1050HX.
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x16x16 is in no way required. GPUs are barely maxing out x8 at the moment and you will not see any performance difference between x8x8 and x16x16. It's only when you drop below x8, like x4, that your performance will suffer.

The P67/Z68 series boards for the 2600k series CPUs can handle x2 SLI with no issues. If you need x3 SLI then it's recommended to go with the x79 platform for adequate PCI lanes to run x8x8x8.

Running SLI is one of those things that you only do it if you need it. What is the resolution of your monitor. @ 1680x1050 you don't really need SLI but at 1920x1080 you'll need x2 SLI for games like BF3 and at 2500x1600 you'll need x3 SLI.

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  Quote Dragoonseal Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Mar 2012 at 12:22pm
Originally posted by jmaster299

and at 2500x1600 you'll need x3 SLI.

Nah, not at all. I've been playing at 2560x1600 for just over a year now haven't had anything Lilim couldn't walk all over with just an i7 920 and two 480s (which are very comparable to 570s, bit more memory). A newer 2600k with two 570s or 580s would do even better, you would definitely not need three of any of these high end cards.

I've put countless hours into the majority of the prominent demanding games at that resolution and max settings, namely Anno 2070, the STALKER series, all three Crysis games (with DX11 and hi-def patches for C2), Metro 2033, SWTOR, etc. Plus highly modded numerous other titles. Amusingly out of all of these Anno 2070 is probably the hardest to run for whatever reason, it will really make those 480s go full tilt and roar.

I have not played BF3, but I highly doubt it would be any harder to run than any of the others above. If it was then it just isn't utilizing SLI/CF worth a darn yet.
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  Quote jmaster299 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Mar 2012 at 12:38pm
What are your frame rates in games like Metro 2033 and what are the exact graphics settings. I can gauruntee for a fact you are not playing at +60fps with that set up at that resolution with max settings.

x2 570's in SLI only achieves 30fps in Metro 2033 @ 2500x1600 wit max settings, so there is no way in hell your 480's are topping that.

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  Quote Dragoonseal Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Mar 2012 at 1:40pm
That was a chin scratcher there. My first thought was that there has been a hell of a lot of driver improvements since 2010 when those benches were done, but then it occurred to me that its actually been a really long time since I've played it so better check my dates.

And hurr durr turns out last time I played it was in Dec of 2010 as well, which is about three months before I got my 2560x1600 monitor, so cross that one off the list my memory failed me and I played it at 1920x1200.

That said, I do know for a fact that I had all graphics at max settings with AAA and even Depth of Field enabled while playing at 1920x1200 and that it played absolutely buttery smooth. It by far played the most smoothly between those three particularly hard to run series (STALKER, Metro, Crysis). I'm a huuuuge STALKER fanboy so I jumped into Metro with a huge bias expecting terrible frame rates and whatnot but I ended up being pleasantly surprised, so my props to them for making such a SLI friendly game.

All the rest I have definitely run at 2560x1600 though, some a great many hours even.
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  Quote jmaster299 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Mar 2012 at 1:58pm
Yes x2 SLI will handle 1920x1200 just fine but when you get to 2560x1600 you need x3 SLI.

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