Bolt II helpPost Date: 2014-12-07 |
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BlackShadow
Newbie Joined: 07 Dec 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 7 |
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Topic: Bolt II help Posted: 07 Dec 2014 at 11:13pm |
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[4k-4.5k$] Expectations: Me and my wife are really worried about spending so much money so here I am reaching out for help. I want this to last for a bit however shes worried about things that her friends tell her about the motherboard not being the best since its small. She is also is afraid of overclocking it and voiding the warranty (although I don't think that's possible nor do I think it would void a Warranty but I am not very fluent with Computers). I am personally afraid of the cooling system being liquid but if its no maintenance then I am for it. We are looking to purchase two this month, so um yea what do you guys think? are the specs more then solid to play on ultra? is having a titan to much for such a small motherboard? Would you change anything? Usage: Heavy devotion to gaming Saved Ticket #: 1111434 Specifications: Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Pre-built Digital Storm Bolt II Exterior Finish: Exotic Paint Finish - Storm Blue - Gloss Finish Trim Accents: - No Thanks Processor: Intel Core i7 4790K 4.0 GHz (Codename Devils Canyon) (Unlocked CPU) (Quad Core) Motherboard: ASUS MAXIMUS VII IMPACT (Intel Z97 Chipset) (Mini-ITX) (SupremeFX Impact, Sonic Radar) System Memory: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested) Power Supply: 700W Digital Storm Bolt II Edition Expansion Bay: - No Thanks Optical Drive: External USB - Blu-Ray Player (Blu-Ray 6x) & DVD/CD Writer Storage Set 1: 1x SSD (120GB Samsung 840 EVO) Storage Set 2: 1x Storage (1TB Seagate) Storage Set 3: - No Thanks RAID Config: - No Thanks RAID Card: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Graphics Card(s): 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN Z 12GB (Includes PhysX) Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio HPC Processor: - No Thanks Extreme Cooling: 240mm Radiator Liquid CPU Cooler (Extreme-Performance Edition) <br><strong></strong> H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected Chassis Fans: High Static Pressure - Corsair Air Series SP120 Fans (2x 120mm) Internal Lighting: Front Panel + Internal Chassis (RGB LED Lighting System) Airflow Control: - No Thanks Chassis Mods: - No Thanks Noise Reduction: - No Thanks LaserMark: - No Thanks Boost Processor: Stage 1: Overclock CPU 4.0GHz to 4.4GHz <br><strong></strong> Boost Graphics Card(s): - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (64-Bit Edition) Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows CD) Virus Protection: FREE: McAfee AntiVirus Plus (1 Year Service Activation Card) (Not Pre-installed) ($35 Value) Office: - No Thanks Game: - No Thanks Display: Asus 24 inch 248 Series (Widescreen) (Black) (2ms Response Time) (LED Backlight) <br><strong></strong> Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: Logitech Media Combo MK200 Keyboard and Mouse Mouse: - No Thanks Portable Gaming: - No Thanks Branded Gear: - No Thanks Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed Warranty: Life-time Expert Care with 4 Year Limited Warranty (4 Year Labor & 2 Year Part Replacement) <br><strong></strong> |
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Kaelara
Newbie Joined: 30 Oct 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 67 |
Quote Reply Posted: 08 Dec 2014 at 12:20am |
You would do far better with one GTX 980 than the titan ... The Titan is more for Cad and other scientific applications than gaming, now it will run games , but the money saved on the GPU would allow you to purchase a larger SSD , the 120 gig SSD is going to be used up pretty fast esp if you play games with multi expansions like WoW
I would opt for the GTX 980 and a 500gig SSD instead of the Titan. Benchmarks for the GTX 980 nearly equal the titan and for a lot less money. |
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Kaelara
Velox Asus X99 Rampage V Intel i7-5820k 3.3 16G DD4 2800Mhz Ram 2x SLI Dual Nvidia Geforce GTX 980 4GB Asus Strix Edition Corsair H110 280mm Radiator Liquid CPU Cooler |
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BlackShadow
Newbie Joined: 07 Dec 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 7 |
Quote Reply Posted: 08 Dec 2014 at 12:50am |
I can see what you mean now and thank you so much for the input I guess we might not need a titian after all. The reason I opted for a titan is because I am not sure what the requirements might be for future games and didn't want the card to be outdated so quickly but both of out college careers won't need that type of power I sopose. |
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bprat22
DS ELITE DigitalStorm East -- (Unofficially!) Joined: 08 Jun 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 20391 |
Quote Reply Posted: 08 Dec 2014 at 3:15am |
Hi BlackShadow.... For that single 1920x1080 monitor I also would opt for the gtx 980. Excellent gaming. If you had any plans of upping the monitor to 1440 or 4k in the future, that's when the Titan Z would be needed and give much better performance over a single 980. The Bolt doesn't allow for dual cards, so a dual gpu card like Titan Z is its only option for sli right now. Titan Z is similar to sli, 2x Titan Black.
The liquid coolers in your build are sealed with no maintenance needed. The smaller motherboards are just as good as the larger ones, just more compact with less pcie slots. Good luck. |
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FrankW
DS Veteran Joined: 22 Feb 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2254 |
Quote Reply Posted: 08 Dec 2014 at 5:09am |
Hi BlackShadow,
What you do about your GPU has a lot to do with your application. The particular games you play and the resolution of your monitor determines how much GPU power you might need. I am not sure if you are in college or out of college. If you are in college I can see why you might want a Bolt II if you live in a dorm. The Bolt II is a nice system but is engineered to be as small as possible with good gaming ability. The size of the Bolt II limits its flexibility for future expansion of your system. A double GPU card like the Titan Z in the Bolt II will give you the most GPU power you can achieve. The problem with all double GPU cards is if they fail out of warranty. So if 1/2 of a Titan fails you have to replace the whole card. A computer that can hold two GPU carda like two 980s, you only have to buy the one card that has failed. Which is much cheaper than buying a new Titan Z. You stated that you want to play on Ultra. That will depend on the games you play, the resolution of your monitor and how many monitors you have. If you stick with one 1080 monitor then one 980 will serve you well. If you bought the Bolt II specifically because you are limited with space then that is a great choice. If you have the space for larger computers you may be better off with a different case with more room and flexibility. Frank Edited by FrankW - 08 Dec 2014 at 5:13am |
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BlackShadow
Newbie Joined: 07 Dec 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 7 |
Quote Reply Posted: 08 Dec 2014 at 8:17am |
We talked it over and are willing to spend around 5k She wants something more flexible that she can change parts in the future if need be and the Hailstorm seems to fit both are needs. No clue if I should make a separate topic but if you guys could look this over I would be extremely grateful. Configuration code 1111568 Specifications: Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Hailstorm II Edition Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish Processor: Intel Core i7 4790K 4.0 GHz (Codename Devils Canyon) (Unlocked CPU) (Quad Core) Motherboard: ASUS Z97-DELUXE (Intel Z97 Chipset) (Features 802.11ac Wi-Fi Connectivity) <br><strong></strong> System Memory: 16GB DDR3 1866MHz Corsair Vengeance Pro (High-Performance) Power Supply: 1500W Silverstone Strider ST1500 <br><strong></strong> Expansion Bay: - No Thanks Optical Drive: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x) Storage Set 1: 1x SSD (250GB Samsung 840 EVO) Storage Set 2: 1x Storage (1TB Western Digital - Black Edition) Storage Set 3: - No Thanks RAID Config: - No Thanks RAID Card: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Graphics Card(s): 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 4GB (Includes PhysX) Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio HPC Processor: - No Thanks Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex 240mm Radiator Liquid CPU Cooler (Extreme-Performance Edition) <br><strong></strong> H20 Tube Color:Red Tubing with High-Performance Fluid (UV Lighting Reactive) Chassis Fans: Upgrade All Fans to Corsair Airflow Performance Edition (Up to 6 Fans) <br><strong></strong> Internal Lighting: Remote Controlled LED Lighting System (Multiple color options and lighting effects) Airflow Control: - No Thanks Chassis Mods: - No Thanks Noise Reduction: - No Thanks LaserMark: - No Thanks Boost Processor: Stage 1: Overclock CPU 4.0GHz to 4.4GHz Boost Graphics Card(s): - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 8.1 Professional (64-Bit Edition) Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows CD) Virus Protection: FREE: McAfee AntiVirus Plus (1 Year Service Activation Card) (Not Pre-installed) ($35 Value) Office: - No Thanks Game: - No Thanks Display: Asus 24 inch 248 Series (Widescreen) (Black) (2ms Response Time) (LED Backlight) <br><strong></strong> Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: Logitech Media Combo MK200 Keyboard and Mouse <br><strong></strong> Mouse: - No Thanks Portable Gaming: - No Thanks Branded Gear: - No Thanks Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed Warranty: Life-time Expert Care with 4 Year Limited Warranty (4 Year Labor & 2 Year Part Replacement) <br><strong></strong> |
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bprat22
DS ELITE DigitalStorm East -- (Unofficially!) Joined: 08 Jun 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 20391 |
Quote Reply Posted: 08 Dec 2014 at 8:32am |
Excellent choices and a more flexible build.
For tops in air cooling, and video cards on air is an air cooled rig, the Velox case is about the best. Nothing wrong with the Hailstorm, Corsair 900D, so really up to you. Personal preference does factor in. The 1500 watt psu is way more than you'll ever use. The EVGA 850watt Super Nova will give you what you need and headroom to spare. If that makes you nervous, the 1050HX is plenty. Drop the Red Tubing under H2O tube color. That's for the Hydrolux waterr cooled setups. The Vortex 240 wouldn't use it. Looks great and stay in touch. |
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DS Veteran Joined: 28 Oct 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1674 |
Quote Reply Posted: 08 Dec 2014 at 9:20am |
A thing to keep in mind with the Bolt II with a Titan Z is that you cannot lay it on its side, as there is not enough ventilation space with the extra wide card. The Titan Z does offer two GPUs on a single card and will handily out-perform a GTX 980, as opposed to a Titan Black. Right now, either one of those cards will drastically outperform the monitor you have selected for all but the most demanding games.
As for the warranty, you've already selected the 4/2 year plan, if you bump it up to 5/3, you basically have an equivalent warrant for the parts as they would normally have. Therefore, if you spec an overclock on either the CPU or GPU, it should be covered buy the warranty you purchase here. The Maximus VII Impact has a lot of features packed on it, and unless you plan to add on expansion cards or additional graphics cards in the future, you are not missing much. |
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FrankW
DS Veteran Joined: 22 Feb 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2254 |
Quote Reply Posted: 08 Dec 2014 at 1:41pm |
Hi BlackShadow,
Your Hallstorm II build looks good. The Hallstorm is a great case but better suited to a full liquid cooling system. It has lots of room for big radiators especially in the bottom of the case. In case you didn't notice the Hallstorm II is big:27"x10"x26". Since you are using air cooling for the GPUs I have put together a suggested system on the Velox case. I included a better SSD and a bigger liquid cooler for your CPU. You don't really need the 280 size radiator but the case can take it and you never get enough cooling. If you want to save some money you can get the 240 cooler and the EVO SSD. You will save about $400 per system with the Velox system over the Hailstorm II. If you prefer the looks of the Hailstorm II over the Velox then go for it. The Velox is not as big: 20"x9"x22" Configuration Code: 1111749 Cost $4012 Specifications: Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Digital Storm Velox Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish Processor: Intel Core i7 4790K 4.0 GHz (Codename Devils Canyon) (Unlocked CPU) (Quad Core) Motherboard: ASUS Z97-DELUXE (Intel Z97 Chipset) (Features 802.11ac Wi-Fi Connectivity) System Memory: 16GB DDR3 1866MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested) Power Supply: 850W EVGA SuperNOVA Expansion Bay: - No Thanks Optical Drive: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x) Storage Set 1: 1x SSD (256GB Samsung 850 PRO) Storage Set 2: 1x Storage (1TB Western Digital - Black Edition) Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Graphics Card(s): 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 4GB (Includes PhysX) Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Corsair H110 280mm Radiator Liquid CPU Cooler (Extreme-Performance Edition) Chassis Fans: Upgrade All Fans to Corsair Airflow Performance Edition (Up to 6 Fans) Internal Lighting: - No Thanks Airflow Control: - No Thanks Boost Processor: Stage 1: Overclock CPU 4.0GHz to 4.4GHz Boost Graphics Card(s): - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (64-Bit Edition) Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows CD) Virus Protection: FREE: McAfee AntiVirus Plus (1 Year Service Activation Card) (Not Pre-installed) ($35 Value) Office: - No Thanks Game: - No Thanks Display: Asus 24 inch 248 Series (Widescreen) (Black) (2ms Response Time) (LED Backlight) Surge Shield: - No Thanks Warranty: Life-time Expert Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty (3 Year Labor & 1 Year Part Replacement) The limitation with the Z97 mother board and the 4790 CPU is you are limited to two GPUs for best performace. Because of this I put in a 850 Power Supply. There might be a slight delay with the Velox case as it may not be available just yet. Frank Edited by FrankW - 09 Dec 2014 at 4:10am |
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Black Fire Dragon
Newbie Joined: 06 Sep 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 17 |
Quote Reply Posted: 08 Dec 2014 at 6:01pm |
As far as looks go I love the velox and aventum. Don't know why i'm such a sucker for style.
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BlackShadow
Newbie Joined: 07 Dec 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 7 |
Quote Reply Posted: 09 Dec 2014 at 11:10pm |
Thank you for all of the support!
we decided to go for the last build I put up for the hailstorm but I was wondering one more thing personally for myself if I might ask one more thing? Can I use duel monitors with the setup I have? I do want to stream games as well and a second screen would help. Again thank you all for everything so far! |
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ArkansasWoman777
DS Veteran Joined: 19 Aug 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 4314 |
Quote Reply Posted: 10 Dec 2014 at 3:41am |
Yes you can, should not be an issue
Edited by ArkansasWoman777 - 10 Dec 2014 at 3:41am |
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FrankW
DS Veteran Joined: 22 Feb 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2254 |
Quote Reply Posted: 10 Dec 2014 at 5:43am |
Hi BlackShadow,
You can go with two screens with no problem but be careful about resolution. In the future if you want to get a 4K monitor the two 980 GPUs will give you limited 4K service. That is, you will have to turn down some settings on some games. A 4K monitor for ultra play you may need 3 980 GPUs. If you find you need three 980s you can't do it with a Z97 mother board due to the PCIe available lanes. Good luck with your system. The Hailstorm II is a nice case. When you place your order ask DS if you need a blow hole and fan on the side of the window to aid cooling on the GPUs. With two GPUs you probably don't need it. Frank Edited by FrankW - 10 Dec 2014 at 5:53am |
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