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Bolt II - Any disadvantages?

Post Date: 2014-07-07
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    Posted: 07 Jul 2014 at 10:57am
Budget:
Around $3,000

Expectations:
Gaming only

Usage:
BF4, Crysis, DayZ, Forest, Z1H1, and so on.

Saved Ticket #: 1006609

Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Pre-built Digital Storm Bolt II
Exterior Finish: Onyx Black Matte Finish
Trim Accents: - No Thanks
Processor: Intel Core i5 4690K 3.50 GHz (Codename Devils Canyon) (Unlocked CPU) (Quad Core) <br><strong></strong>
Motherboard: ASUS MAXIMUS VI IMPACT (Intel Z87 Chipset) (Mini-ITX) (SupremeFX Impact, Sonic Radar) <br><strong></strong>
System Memory: 16GB DDR3 1866MHz Corsair Vengeance Pro (High-Performance) <br><strong></strong>
Power Supply: 700W Digital Storm Bolt II Edition <br><strong></strong>
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Optical Drive: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 8x / CD-Writer 8x) (Slim Slot Loading Edition)
Storage Set 1: 1x SSD (256GB Samsung 840 PRO) <br><strong></strong>
Storage Set 2: 1x Storage (2TB Western Digital - Enterprise Edition) <br><strong></strong>
Storage Set 3: - No Thanks
RAID Config: - No Thanks
RAID Card: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Graphics Card(s): 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 3GB (Includes PhysX) <br><strong></strong>
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
HPC Processor: - No Thanks
Extreme Cooling: 240mm Radiator Liquid CPU Cooler (Extreme-Performance Edition) <br><strong></strong>
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Fans: High Static Pressure - Corsair Air Series SP120 Fans (2x 120mm)
Internal Lighting: Front Panel + Internal Chassis (RGB LED Lighting System) <br><strong></strong>
Airflow Control: Digital Storm Thermal Management Control Board & Software <br><strong></strong>
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 2: Overclock CPU 4.5GHz to 4.8GHz (Requires High-End Motherboard Selection) <br><strong></strong>
Boost Graphics Card(s): Yes, Overclock the video card(s) as much as possible with complete stability <br><strong></strong>
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows CD)
Virus Protection: FREE: McAfee AntiVirus Plus (1 Year Service Activation Card) (Not Pre-installed) ($35 Value)

Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty (3 Year Labor & 1 Year Part Replacement)

I seem to be going around and around with what system I should go with. Went from the ODE going for SLI, then realizing that I probably wouldn't do that and just swap out another video card when a better one comes out. I didn't want a full tower, was leaning towards the Coridium case. But then just started looking at the BOLT II, how nice a compact it was and how you can remove the video card, hard drives easily. I just wasn't really sure if there were any significant disadvantages, or using a Mini ITX board or anything like that. Will a top tier graphics card be cool enough in the case?
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Posts: 20391 		  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 Jul 2014 at 11:09am
Hi Sandman530....    The only disadvantage with a mini mobo in the Bolt over a full size is that it has only 2 RAM slot, so 16gb ram is max, only has  a single Pcie slot and has 4x SATA ports for drive hookup.    For most, the 16GB and single card is all they want, so no problem.  If you don't need more than 3 drives  then no problem there either.

Bolt 2 is a strong, compact system.  

Cooling for the graphic cards isn't an issue because the intake and exhaust for the cards are right next to case cutouts to bring the air directly to it and out. 

Hope this helps.  Big%20Smile


Edited by bprat22 - 07 Jul 2014 at 11:11am
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Thanks again Bprat,

Here's the other configuration I was looking at, that I was looking at maybe doing SLI with. Still not sure which way to go.

Configuration Code: 1006694
Total Price with Instant Savings: $2,862
Load Configuration URL: https://www.digitalstormonline.com/configurator.asp?id=1006694

If you have any questions or have any questions or comments regarding this configuration, please send us a message: https://www.digitalstormonline.com/request-help.asp

Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Digital Storm Coridium <br><strong></strong>
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i5 4690K 3.50 GHz (Codename Devils Canyon) (Unlocked CPU) (Quad Core) <br><strong></strong>
Motherboard: ASUS MAXIMUS VII HERO (Intel Z97 Chipset) (The Ultimate Power Platform) <br><strong></strong>
System Memory: 16GB DDR3 1866MHz Corsair Vengeance Pro (High-Performance) <br><strong></strong>
Power Supply: 1050W Corsair HX1050 <br><strong></strong>
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Optical Drive: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Storage Set 1: 1x SSD (256GB Samsung 840 PRO) <br><strong></strong>
Storage Set 2: 1x Storage (2TB Western Digital - Black Edition) <br><strong></strong>
Storage Set 3: - No Thanks
RAID Config: - No Thanks
RAID Card: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Graphics Card(s): 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 3GB (Includes PhysX) <br><strong></strong>
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
HPC Processor: - No Thanks
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Corsair H100i 240mm Radiator Liquid CPU Cooler (Extreme-Performance Edition) <br><strong></strong>
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Fans: Upgrade All Fans to Corsair Airflow Performance Edition (Up to 6 Fans) <br><strong></strong>
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Red) <br><strong></strong>
Airflow Control: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 2: Overclock CPU 4.5GHz to 4.8GHz (Requires High-End Motherboard Selection) <br><strong></strong>
Boost Graphics Card(s): Yes, Overclock the video card(s) as much as possible with complete stability <br><strong></strong>
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows CD)
Virus Protection: FREE: McAfee AntiVirus Plus (1 Year Service Activation Card) (Not Pre-installed) ($35 Value)

Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty (3 Year Labor & 1 Year Part Replacement)
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Posts: 20391 		  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 Jul 2014 at 12:17pm
That's real nice build, also.      

Not to sway you one way or the other, but my pick would be the Coridium, Corsair 450d, build. Sli if you ever go into higher res monitor, more room to play around inside, and a conventional power supply, available anywhere.

But, Bolt takes up less room.

Tough call.



Edited by bprat22 - 07 Jul 2014 at 12:27pm
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Both look good to me.
I-5 14600 KF
ASUS Prime Z790-P D5
32GB DDR5 6000MHz Kingston FURY Beast RGB
SSD M.2 2TB Samsung 990 PRO
RTX 4080 16GB
H20: Stage 3: Digital Storm Vortex Liquid CPU Cooler
Asus PB278Q 27" 2560 by 1440
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Both look good, it really about if you want a small form factor build or a full size with more expansion options.
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Yeah, I think I'm really leaning on the Coridium, Corsair 450d, build.

GTX 780 3GB or GTX 780 Ti 3GB

any thoughts of what would be best to get and maybe get another a few years down the line.. for SLI.
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I would suggest the best card your budget allows. The 780 ti is about 20% better in general and in some higher resolution gaming, does as well if not better than the 780 in sli, but that's not the norm.  

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1063?vs=1072

As far as sli in the future, if you don't do it in the next 6 months to a year then there's a good chance you won't.   Newer cards will be out that perform much better with lower power needed and cheaper, if the trend continues.    Not to say you won't but even 2 years from now, some of today's cards might be hard to find.  And their prices don't drop as much as you would think. 

You might have mentioned it, but if you game on a 1920x1080, then a single 780 or 780 ti should do it for some time and a newer card later on would keep you on top.  .  If you game on a 30" 2560x1600 monitor then sli does become more important.   

Gtx 780 is real nice and doubtful you'd be disappointed, and the 780 ti gives you more for longer.  

Hope this helps.  Big%20Smile
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Originally posted by Sandman530

Yeah, I think I'm really leaning on the Coridium, Corsair 450d, build.

GTX 780 3GB or GTX 780 Ti 3GB

any thoughts of what would be best to get and maybe get another a few years down the line.. for SLI.


Honestly, that is your call. The 780 Ti, is the best single GPU card for gaming out there. The only caveat is that for 4k displays or multiple monitors comparable AMD cards get about 5% better FPS. The question is, if that extra is worth the price difference to you.

Here are a bunch of benchmarks comparing the cards: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1036?vs=1072

Edited by danjw1 - 08 Jul 2014 at 9:45am
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I would go for a 780 Ti. That's what I'm getting, 4790K and a GTX 780 Ti. For a few hundred more you get a decent performance increase.
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