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    Posted: 18 Feb 2011 at 1:47pm
Thx in advance for taking a few moments to review this basic i7-2600K system.
 
A few notes:
 
1) I upgraded the power supply to 1000w incase I, or a kid (likely will end up with this is a couple years) wants to expand. Am I simply spending $116 needlessly by upgrading the power supply?
 
2) My main app has been programmed to take advantage of AVX.
 
3) My main app is basically all floating point. The highest possible OC is beneficial to me, but upgrading DDR3 to 2000 from 1600 will hardly matter.
 
4) I only do light gaming. The most intense games I'd play are AOE3 or SC2. So this is more video card than I need, but nice to have anyhow.
 
5) I spec'd stage 4 cooling, which does a great job on my 980X system. Am I correct that cooling the chip set (stage 5) wouldn't help me?
 
6) For $99 I can let DS overclock it to the max, and then, if I want to, experiment with tweaking it higher, myself.
 
7) I really like the HAF 932 case and size isn't an issue.
 
Am I missing anything? Thx .. neilkaz ..
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Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 2600K 3.40GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS Sabertooth P67 (Intel P67 Chipset) (Features USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s)
System Memory: 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1000W Digital Storm Certified (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition Highly Recommended)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (1TB Hitachi/Seagate (7200 RPM) (32MB Cache)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 1.2GB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 4: Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System: CPU Only
H20 Tube Color:Blue Tubing with High-Performance Fluid (UV Lighting Reactive)
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
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Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
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Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Feb 2011 at 2:14pm
1. 1000w is good if you want to be able to do sli 570, if not then 750w corsair is good, no matter what for psu go with corsair, it has its own 5 year warranty.

5. chipset cooling is for the mobo, will not help oc here.


change case to haf x and add an extera 200mm fan to the top so you endup with 4 x 200mm fans for great airflow.

change hdd1 to caviar black, ssd would be much better.

you picked uv blue tubing but no uv light, so pick the uv light.



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  Quote neilkaz Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Feb 2011 at 3:03pm

Thx, DST4ME

It sounds like you clearly prefer Corsair PSU and WD hard drive. I don't expect to want to SLI 570's so I guess I can just go Corsair 750w.

I really like the HAF 932 case. Stage 4 cooling with my HAF 932 case has two top fans, is there room for a third fan with the HAF X?  I also see no direct way to add a top fan to this config using the DS menu.

I'm unfamiliar with ssd. How would it help me, considering that I don't expect to use more than 100 GB of the 1000 GB HD? If you really think I can benefit from it, please spec a basic raid for me if needed. As you see, I am not at all familiar with raid and ssd.
 
thx .. neilkaz ..
 
EDIT: I just noted the new Raid SSD thread here and will study it


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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Feb 2011 at 3:19pm
The 932 does not have 2 fans on top it has one 230mm fan on top, the haf x comes with one and you can add anther big fan on top. When you choose the haf x, you need to call or ask DS speicifically to add this 200mm fan to the top:

haf 200mm non led fan

corsair has its own 5 year warranty, the other brand has a 2 year warranty and, we don't know what the actual brand is.

not going sli, change mobo to p8p67 also, no reason to spend money on sabertooth.

you don't need raid, ssd is pretty much like a hdd, you can raid it or not, but ssd has very fast speeds.

best hdd setup is like this:

HDD1 = fast small drive: os/apps/games

HDD2 = regular large drive: media/personal/work file storage

so say a 80GB/160GB ssd for hdd1 then the black caviar for HDD2, if budget does not allow, then hitachi 1TB for HDD2.

give me your ticket number for that build.
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  Quote neilkaz Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Feb 2011 at 4:01pm
Thx DST4ME. I think this build is basically in line with your reco.
 
Re HAF X vs 932. What you're telling is that, the HAF X with two top fans provided better cooling that the 932 with one top fan (am not home..and thought 932 had two also)
 
Re: Internal lighting, if I spec blue, ALL lighting will be blue?
 
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master 942 HAF X
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 2600K 3.40GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 (Intel P67 Chipset) (Features USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s)
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Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
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Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 1.2GB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 4: Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System: CPU Only
H20 Tube Color:Blue Tubing with High-Performance Fluid (UV Lighting Reactive)
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Blue)
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Feb 2011 at 4:15pm
Just to clarify, the 932 comes with total of three 200mm fans, and the haf x when we add the extra fan on top, will have four 200mm fans total.

ask DS what size rad they use for stage 4 LC, and if its a single 120mm then ask them no to put it on top, so that you get to keep all the top fans, if its a single they can stick some place else inside, if its bigger ask them to place it somewhere so that you don't lose top fans if possible.

Your build is dead on

lighting:

this is were it gets a bit complicated, the lighting is just what color light they will instal in your pc, for example look at my system, I got the uv lights, you see them as purple or blue, blue light will be different then mine.

if you want your fans led, then you need to request that they add this blue led to the top and replace the other led 200mm fans with blue 200mm oem fans below, but first little more info, the front fan is actually a 230mm fan while the fan we want to add and the other top and side fans are 200mm, so you need to request the front 230mm fan to be replaced with this blue 230mm led fan:

230mm blue led fan


then you want to ask them to change the top and side fan with this 200mm blue led fan:

200mm blue led fan


then you want to also ask them to add another one of those blue 200mm fans to the top, leaving you with 3 x 200mm blue led fans and 1 x 230mm blue led fan.

Be Sure to ask specifically for the fans I linked, they might actually ask you for the link for the fans, so make sure you tell them exactly which fan you want where. All this will cost some extra money.

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  Quote neilkaz Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 21 Feb 2011 at 10:04pm

Thx DST4ME,

A few comments and then questions about cases and lighting so that I end up with exactly what I want.
 
1) If you look at the configurator and click on cooling stages you can see what DS uses. I'm home now to carefully look at and measure my two other DS computers. With Stage 4 DS removed the 932's top 230mm fan and replaced with two 120mm fans blowing inward thru the rad hung just below it.
 
2) My older computer has Asetek cooling with the upgrade to the 240mm rad and DS also installed two 120mm fans above that rad at the top of that smaller 922 case.
 
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-HAF-932-Case-Review/613/3 is a review of the 932 and discusses removing the top fan and substituting two smaller ones.
 
3) Here's a review of the HAF X (942) showing that a 2nd top 200mm fan can be added. http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-HAF-X-Case-Review/1003/2
 
So @ DS, my question is four stage 4 cooling if I get the HAF X case as recommended to me, will you put two 200 mm fans sucking air in through the rad and what is the added cost for the extra fan? How much cooling would I gain vs using two smaller 120mm fans? Even if it is only a degree I'd like to have the larger fans.
 
4) The review is telling me that there's air filters for most of the fans for the HAF X and those aren't present for the 932.
 
Both cases are very nice and rated great for cooling by DS so I am curious just what I am getting for the extra money for the HAF X. However, as stated, if my cooling is even a little better with the two larger top fans, it is worth it to me, since this will basically run 24/7.
 
Re: lighting.. and noting that I didn't spec no pay for any custom lighting on my two previous systems : 980X HAF932, 920 HAF922.
 
My 922 came with all blue lighting which looks really nice to me. The two top fans are blue led (but unlighted would also be OK). I added a large side panel fan blowing out (blue led) and it lowered my OC temps about an average of 1.5C (78.5C to 77C in a 21.5C ambient room)
 
My 932 lighting is a mix of red and blue, which came as quite a surprise to me. The front fan is red led, and no other fans are led. There's a blue light along the bottom of the case lengthwise. The top fans are Zalman 120mm. Anyhow, it would have been nice to have had all one color lighting, preferably blue.
 
@DS please advise about lighting, I need nothing fancy or extra but do want it all the same color. Can the front 230mm default fan be changed to blue led rather than red? Also, what is the added cost for a 2nd top 200 mm fan with the HAF X if I go Stage 4 cooling?
 
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 21 Feb 2011 at 10:28pm
1. yes but you can/could have asked DS to put the rad some place else to keep the original big fan in place.

2. same as above.

3. no sure why this review, as I already said it can be added.

4. you are getting more room and airflow vs the 932, also the x can handle bigger boards.



Re: lighting, of course the front fan can be changed but you have to take into account the price for parts/shipping/labor.

pricing questions should be directed at DS, I'm just a customer like you.

call Sarah at 1-866-817-8676 Extension: 115 and she will set you up or email her sarah@digitalstormonline.com

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  Quote neilkaz Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 22 Feb 2011 at 1:34pm
Thx.. you've convinced me on the HAF X. When I email Sarah later today I'll ask about the extra 200mm fan for the top and my minor lighting color concerns.
 
I do have one last (we hope) question and that is 240mm rad placement. Please bear with me in that I am not very familiar with liquid cooling (which is why I am happy to have DS do it for me). Anyhow, are the fans supposed to blow air past through the rad? This is how my two other systems are built and it there's no need for this, then it is clear that the rad has to be blocking a decent portion of the air flow from the top fans.
 
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cool, ambient air needs to blow into/through the radiator

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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 22 Feb 2011 at 2:10pm
Yes fans will need to blow air thru the rad, that is how the heat exchange works.

with LC you might lose the top fans, you can ask them to install someplace else, allowing you to keep your fan if possible.
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  Quote Sarah Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Feb 2011 at 6:32pm
I passed your message along to Craig and he should be in here soon to answer any questions you might have!
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  Quote neilkaz Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Feb 2011 at 8:22pm
Originally posted by Sarah

I passed your message along to Craig and he should be in here soon to answer any questions you might have!
Thx, please remind Craig and hopefully tomorrow he can answer these simple config questions and noting the additional info he emailed you. Once these are answered I can buy with confidence that I'll get what I want.
 
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  Quote neilkaz Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Mar 2011 at 11:52pm
I must admit that I am growing frustrated and disillusioned. I'd have placed my order at least a week ago, after DST4ME's superb advise and help, as long as DS can answer a couple very simple config questions (which I've also emailed and also alerted management more than one that this is all that is holding up my P.O.)
 
Hopefully someone from DS can email me or reply here with full answers tomorrow morning.
 
Or am I to simply place my P.O. and add the 2nd 200mm top fan myself (assuming it isn't standard with Stage 4 cooling and HAF X case?) Am I to change out fans and internal lighting myself, if the colors again are a mix of blue and red?
 
Since this will be my 3rd DS system and I've express great desire to purchase, I'd have expected not to wait a week for responses from DS management.
 
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  Quote RiceEatin2000GT Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 02 Mar 2011 at 12:37am
Originally posted by neilkaz

I must admit that I am growing frustrated and disillusioned. I'd have placed my order at least a week ago, after DST4ME's superb advise and help, as long as DS can answer a couple very simple config questions (which I've also emailed and also alerted management more than one that this is all that is holding up my P.O.)

 

Hopefully someone from DS can email me or reply here with full answers tomorrow morning.

 

Or am I to simply place my P.O. and add the 2nd 200mm top fan myself (assuming it isn't standard with Stage 4 cooling and HAF X case?) Am I to change out fans and internal lighting myself, if the colors again are a mix of blue and red?

 

Since this will be my 3rd DS system and I've express great desire to purchase, I'd have expected not to wait a week for responses from DS management.

 

Thx .. neilkaz ..


I would email management about this. management@digitalstormonline.com
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  Quote neilkaz Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 02 Mar 2011 at 3:55pm
Thx Craig, and I just ordered !
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  Quote neilkaz Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Mar 2011 at 2:53pm
OK this great system arrived yesterday. There was some delay since the overclock wasn't high enough using the initially spec'd basic mobo. After speaking a couple times to DS personnel, I decided to upgrade to the current Ferrari of mobos Motherboard: ASUS Maximus IV Extreme (Intel P67 Chipset) (New & Improved B3 Revision Without SATA 3G Issue) since I was told this was the best bet for 5 GHz and noting some very favorable reviews and videos online. Anyhow, if I ever want to SLI I certainly can now.
 
Checking initial settings and noting DS will give some margin for stability when they send out an overclocked computer, it was at 4.9 Ghz using 1.534 V-core.
 
Last night I bumped it up to 5 GHz and P95 ran fine so today I lowered V-core to 1.51 and BSOD after 20 minutes. BSOD after nearly 2 hours using 1.52V so I am now running 1.525V and I expect no issues and this is running P95 the same3 temp as the initial 4.9Ghz at 1.534V.
 
Anyhow..enough overclock talk here and I can't say enough good things about these 2600K Sandy Bridge chips! I eagerly await the release of 8 core SB's and will purchase my next system when that happens since it will be a huge upgrade in number crunching ability.
 
DS indeed did a good job of communicating with me throughout this process ! I doubt that other companies would have been as good, and some may have just shipped it as is, with a considerably lower OC than I paid for and wanted, and just refunded my $99.
 
Total cost shipped to me was just under 3K.
 
Once my P95 testing is finished, time to load up SC2 and see how nice it looks and plays on a nearly top end GPU.
 
Thx .. DS .. this is my 3rd DS system and I look forward to being a lifetime customer as I have very high end number crunching needs.
 
Edit: running 1.53V and no issues with P95 so far.


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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Mar 2011 at 6:44pm
I don't agree with the mobo upgrade of maximus, maybe deluxe, your vcore is too high, you need to lower the clock so that your vcore is around 1.42 or lower, the lower the better.

If you went with a 750w psu then you can't sli.

I say 4.7Ghz oc with a better vcore is a much better idea.
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Nice! You're a repeat Digital Storm customer on your 3rd system. AwesomeLove

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  Quote Alex Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Mar 2011 at 7:05pm

@neilkaz,

 
You can sit there and adjust your overclock and fine tune it, but, the way we configured it and tested it, you're all set to enjoy the machine. I would simply enjoy the product as we've sent it.
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  Quote RiceEatin2000GT Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Apr 2011 at 12:10am
Originally posted by DST4ME

I don't agree with the mobo upgrade of maximus, maybe deluxe, your vcore is too high, you need to lower the clock so that your vcore is around 1.42 or lower, the lower the better.

If you went with a 750w psu then you can't sli.

I say 4.7Ghz oc with a better vcore is a much better idea.

i agree with dst(for once lol). Just lowering ur v-core isnt enough sometimes even when you think its to high. Theres a few very key things you need to play with at that high of a voltage to get complete stability. One being LLC(line load calibration) if this setting is set to something like medium at that high of a OC your load voltage will sag)(v droop) and could potentially be unstable. Opposed to a setting of high or very high which will keep ur load voltages much closer to ur manually set voltage. Also the VRM frequency is key to be "Stable" with unrealistic loads like prime95 or linx. Those are a few key things just to look at in bios. However i do agree with alex you paid for the systema nd if your comfortable with trusting DS by all means dont touch it. In my case i got my computer and i was idling at 1.54V for a 4.5ghz OC which is fairly mild. Im down and much more happy at 1.35V at the same 4.5ghz.

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Originally posted by Alex

Nice! You're a repeat Digital Storm customer on your 3rd system. AwesomeLove
 
And you can expect more from me. I need a new laptop and don't want to budget too much for it since I don't use one all that much (mainly for travel), and what I see for $899 with the new S.B. 2630QM chip looks perfect and I pull the trigger soon.
 
We'll have some real fun with a high end system when S.B. 8 core chips come out, especially if you guys can highly overclock a dual Xeon setup with each chip being 8 core HT.  
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  Quote neilkaz Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Apr 2011 at 12:57pm
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You can sit there and adjust your overclock and fine tune it, but, the way we configured it and tested it, you're all set to enjoy the machine. I would simply enjoy the product as we've sent it.
Your point is understood and well taken here! After passing 3.5 hours P95 with 5.0 at 1.53V I decided to run my main app for a while and even though it runs cooler than P95, I BSOD'ed after about 2 hours. So..it was back to DS's 4.9Ghz for me, although I ticked V-core down to 1.525V and things seem fine and run a couple degrees cooler. I'll run P95 overnight and if it fails, back up to 1.53V where I can leave it.
 
The engineer in me, simply has to try to tweak things, especially since mid process I was told the it is best for the high OC to upgrade the mobo to the Maximus.
 
Not to be nitpicky, but the configurator says that the 750W PS is suitable for dual SLI (although that would only possibly be in my distant plans)
 
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did you look at any of the settings i pointed out?
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750w psu can do sli with cards that use low power, the current 480/570/580 and cards like that are not those kinds, they need more like 1000w psu so that you have good enough head room.

problem with vcore of 1.5 and higher is that now you have entered the zone of seriously effecting your cpu's life, at 1.5 vcore, I'm not sure if you cpu will live to see 2013 at 24/7 use.

which is why the lower the vcore the better.

my vcore is at 1.43 but I got 5 year part warranty from DS. You have the 3 year labor and one year part warranty right?

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  Quote neilkaz Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 03 Apr 2011 at 1:45am
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did you look at any of the settings i pointed out?
Yep and lets take a second look as I changed none of those since they look reasonable to me as it arrived.
 
LLC is 100%
 
By VRM freq, I trust you mean what BIOS calls V-core switching freq.
 
It is set to Auto, although I've seen where people running high OC's like this set it manually to 350. Should I do that?
 
P95 passed 22 hours at the same 4.9 GHz DS sent me but using 1.525V rather than 1.534 and obviously a couple degrees cooler.
 
I'l trust DS and leave well enough alone and assume that since I can't be the only customer who has a stage 2 (approx 5 GHz  with needed Stage 4 cooling) OC, that DS expects these SB chips to be able to take it. If not, I'll expect a replacement chip.
 
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Well DS is selling their customers what they want, so if you want a 5.2GHz oc, they will give it to you, if it takes 1.53 vcore then so be it.

what DS and any of us do, has nothing to do with how vcore affects the life a cpu, high vcore like the ones you have, kill the cpu much much faster, like I said, lets see if it lives to see 2013, and as I mentioned you have a 1 year part warranty, so by this time 2012, your warranty is up, and anything goes bad after that, DS is not responsible for.
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OK I'll try overnight at 1.52V and if that works, then 1.515V.
 
I certainly don't mind trying to lower voltage and this whole process is an interesting learning experience for me.
 
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NP and good luck, for 24/7 use I would have the vcore at lower then 1.45, the lower the better.
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  Quote RiceEatin2000GT Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 03 Apr 2011 at 9:59pm
Originally posted by neilkaz

Originally posted by RiceEatin2000GT

did you look at any of the settings i pointed out?

Yep and lets take a second look as I changed none of those since they look reasonable to me as it arrived.

 

LLC is 100%

 

By VRM freq, I trust you mean what BIOS calls V-core switching freq.

 

It is set to Auto, although I've seen where people running high OC's like this set it manually to 350. Should I do that?

 

P95 passed 22 hours at the same 4.9 GHz DS sent me but using 1.525V rather than 1.534 and obviously a couple degrees cooler.

 

I'l trust DS and leave well enough alone and assume that since I can't be the only customer who has a stage 2 (approx 5 GHz  with needed Stage 4 cooling) OC, that DS expects these SB chips to be able to take it. If not, I'll expect a replacement chip.

 

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yes 350 is perfect
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