AMD to launch DX11 cards in September

Currently being showcased to some lucky few at QuakeCon, AMD's Evergreen family of DirectX 11-supporting graphics cards will finally make its debut next month. According to the reddish slide below the Sunnyvale-based company launch its first DX11 hardware on Thursday, September 10, more than a month before the commercial release of the DirectX 11-equipped Windows 7.

TechConnect Magazine

Lets see what Nvidia has to say :D

leme guess... Crytek engine 3 ? lol!

I don't understand? All games will use it? 2 5870x2's will not max out arma 2, and there are other games out  that 1 5870x2 will not max out, and several soon to be released games that again 2 5870 x 2 will not max out.

the 5870 $250-$399 ? that will cover it. lol not the 5870x2 though

 I never said that this was anything more than just a paper launch, so don't take it that I said that either ATI card would be a hard launch in early Sept. And Nvidia did not do the dual cards with the 200 series first, it was one of the last cards to come out, and ATI came out with the 4870x2 very early. Not saying that this series will go the same. lol

Originally posted by Zardoz8719 Originally posted by skyR Regardless if games support it or not, the hardware will still give you major improvements in FPS. Rumor has it that these cards will be using a 384-bit memory bus and is expected to launch with a $249 - $399 price tag. Now, see...I didn't know that about improvements in FPS   Figured a game had to be "designed" to use DX11 for it to matter...  Thanks for clarifying that for me

Edited by Zardoz8719 - 18 Aug 2009 at 6:45am

Yes the cards are more powerful so they will perform better till Nvidia comes out with their cards that will kick their ass, however we were discussing DX11 which is what the op's article was talking about.

If you are talking Nvidia then maybe yes, but at the end the more you wait, the more thing there are to wait for even longer.

best thing to do IMO is go with 275 GTX now and then next year or so upgrade. whatever you wait for, by DEC 2010 it will be outdated and more powerful GPUs will be coming out.

besides the big boys of nvidia are suppose to come out H1 of 2010, so its more like 6 month.

look at the 4870x2, it came out around sept of 2008, by march 2009 nvidia's 275 gtx was matching its performance.

Edited by DST4ME - 18 Aug 2009 at 8:41pm

depends on the game. lol

DST lives in Nvidia's land of unicorns and rainbows sometimes. lol.. Here is a recent review, showing a stock 295, and one overclocked from the factory, the overclocked one will out perform 2 275's in SLI, and games that do not work with SLI.

Nvidia's answer:
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2009/4/22/nvidias-gt300-specifications-revealed---its-a-cgpu!.aspx

Can you say $1000?

I want 3...





Edited by Zurginator - 20 Aug 2009 at 1:17pm

Depends on the game and I never said that at 1900 x 1200 it will match it.




you guys will excuse me if I thought you were quick enough to understand, that needless to say at and above 1900 x 1200 a single 275 can't hang, its not like I have said you need 2 gpus at that resolution a million times in this forum is it?


also in that link as far as 295 goes:

1. there is no 275 in sli in that chart.

2. the main 295 there is liquid cooled.

3. show me an oced 295 and oced 275 in sli then I will believe you.

4. wow justing an oced 295 beats a stock 275? wow how a very fair comparison, but you forgot to mention that it beats it because:

1. you are comparing an oced gpu to a stock gpu, woopdy da, thats not fair, compar a factory oc gpu to a factory oced gpu and not an oced gpu to a stock gpu.

2. show us your chart of oced 295 beating stock 275 in none sli games, so we can see a). how little the difference is, b.) how much more that little difference will cost, c.) how much more heat that oced 295 will have.

3. now be fair and show us a fair comparison of a an factory oced 275 and 295 and lets see which does better in games that support sli and in games that don't support sli.

I have to say justin I'm disapointed to see you compare an oced gpu to a stock gpu in peformance, very misleading for those that don't understand it, and then you say I live in a unicorn land, lol atleast I compare apples with apples and not apples and oranges (aka oced gpu to gpu that is not oced).



@sirsiddius, go read my posts before you speak, I never said that the 275 matches the performance of 4870x2 at 1900 x 1200.


go and look at 275 at 1600 x 1200 and 4870x2 and you will see that they are either within 4 to 8 fps difference depending on the games.



Edited by DST4ME - 20 Aug 2009 at 2:30pm

Originally posted by justin.kerr If the 295 is clocked higher than dual 275's, then it will out-perform them, there is no debate there. There is no over 100% scaling for SLI, so you should be able to extrapolate the results yourself. Isn't this thread about the new ATI cards?

show us the benchmark from a creditable site then. and please keep it fair and show us oced 295 and oced 275s

Edited by DST4ME - 20 Aug 2009 at 2:31pm

Originally posted by sirsiddius lol DST4ME I've lurked long enough on this forum to appreciate your ability to incite flame wars.& I also admire how you emphatically prove your point in debates by producing benchmark graphs from the thin air.So if you'll forgive me seeing as I still don't know how to post images, but if you can take a look here: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2009/07/15/inno3d-ichill-geforce-gtx-275-review/4Can you tell me on which of those graphs does the GTX 275 "match" the performance of the RADEON 4870X2 (Keeping in mind that the CryEngine is optimized for Nvidia Cards)?

you link shows what I said, the diference is 4 to 8 fps, as long at you stay around 4x aa and also keep in mind once about 60 fps you can't tell the differnce so the race is to 60 fps.

whoever made the "noobish comment" is the one that is trying to start a flame war.

I'm not gonna sit here and do this all day but most games go the same way:





Edited by DST4ME - 20 Aug 2009 at 2:46pm

I'm curious what kind kind of power supply you would need to crossfire a couple of those new cards.  I suppose it wishfull thinking, but wouldn't it be nice if they provided more performance with a lower wattage requirement. 

Edited by busdriver01 - 20 Aug 2009 at 3:15pm

he is talking about the new cards I believe? lol

Originally posted by DST4ME LOL the new cards I missed that, we are not sure but I assume a 750w to a 1000w depending on the card. AT the end ATI will come out with the more powerfull card first then nvidia will come out with something that will beat it, it happens every year almost, but justin is right the most powerfull will come out H1 of 2010.

if theyre going to draw less power why would u need a 750w


Edited by <8) slunK parade - 20 Aug 2009 at 6:54pm