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AMD & Celsia working on new GPU cooling solution.

Post Date: 2008-10-21
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    Posted: 21 Oct 2008 at 1:51am
Sugar daddy-enhanced chip company AMD has just teamed up with Celsia Technologies in order to develop a vapor chamber-based cooling solution for high-end graphics cards. The upcoming cooling system will make use of Celsia's NanoSpreader, a patented copper encased two-phase vapor chamber into which pure water is vacuum sealed.

"Working with AMD, we were able to meet all of the design criteria for a new GPU cooler. Namely, it had to be lighter, perform better and be lower cost than the current heat pipe based design," said Joe Formichelli, Celsia's CEO. "Unlike thermal modules using heat pipes, our two phase NanoSpreader comes in direct contact with the heat source whereby removing costly, heavy base plates."

The two companies haven's said anything about when we'll see a result of their collaboration. Most likely they'll have something to show off in 1H 2009.
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is this gonna be better then hydrogen?

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Are you referring to liquid nitrogen cooling? If so, the answer is no. It has the potential to be more efficient than current heatpipe technology, but it depends on how well it's implemented. I've seen manufacturers make poor attempts in the past and the end result was close to heatpipe technology, but not anywhere near its potential.
The focus on this tech would be to lighten the card and cut costs, but it could also be a better cooler. Don't expect it to be as good as a huge aftermarket cooling design, but rather, more efficient for its size and weight.
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MSI has a version of their 280gtx hydrogen cooled, I was just wondering why not that direction.

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MSI Hydrogen is a heatpipe design with the ability to fill it up with liquid. It doesn't come out of the box vacuumed sealed with liquid rofl.

Sapphire already uses VCT in their Atomic lineup, it's a single slot design and is about 10C cooler than the stock double slot heatpipe cooler.
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I don't recall saying it was sealed, or anything like that .

my point is that if you want better cooling shouldn't one go for the best, which is hydrogen.

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Never said anything about wanting the best. AMD is just working on a more efficient and cheaper stock cooler for their GPUs.

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You're comparing apples to oranges DST4ME. The hydrogen is a watercooling block and Celsia is cooling with air... photos actually show it being passive air, but I'm sure it'll depend upon which card they apply it to.
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The are tickle's topic is about "GPU cooling solution", so I was commenting about gpu cooling solution and the fact that I think the best gpu cooling solution is hydrogen.

now as far as stock coolers go, I suppose this better fans, just about anything is.

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Posts: 840 		  Quote widdlecat Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 22 Oct 2008 at 3:42am
No the topic is about Celisia getting with AMD to use a "new" cooling solution for their vid cards. Not new tech of course, but new to ATI cards. Celisia's tech is an attempt to improve over their more convetional as well as heatpipe tech. Nobody is trying to compare it to liquid cooling. Also, you keep talking hydrogen as if they actually use the element Hydrogen in the named product.
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its called hydrogen cooling so I'm addressing it by its name.

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Why do you feel it necessary to always get the last word in on every thread?Unhappy
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you asked me a question so I am answering you.

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-waves white flags over and over-
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you are making too much of it AD , we are just talking.

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Sorry for being skeptical lol.
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It just sends out the wrong signal, I'm not fighting, and I certainly don't feel like Cat is attacking me, we are just talking.

you see where I'm coming from?

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Roger lol.  I'm just skeptical is all ahaha.  Excuse me for being overly caring. Cool
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