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    Posted: 27 May 2014 at 7:13pm
Hi there, I came to ask for help on what
I should buy. My usage will be to play MMOs on high settings not necessarily ultra settings, also games such as battlefield 4 that will run on maybe 50-60 fps and to be able to edit and render videos for youtube. Special needs are that the pc will be in a dusty environment and so I am guessing it will need the best airflow to keep the dust out. sorry if some of this makes no sense as I am a noob to this stuff and dont know whats the best setup for me


My budget is $1900 but am willing to go to $2000 please give your advice and config #s advice thanks
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As far as the dusty environment, the big thing is to have positive pressure in the case. So you want the intake fans pushing more air in then the exhaust fans. This means that the case will be pushing air out of and holes in the case. This can be done with fan tuning. I am guessing that if you select "Noise Reduction: Noise Suppression Package Stage 1 (Optimized Airflow & Fan Speeds Only)", and add a note that you have a dusty environment and need positive pressure in the case, that DS will tune that for you. It would be best to ask DS about this.

You will also want to make sure that the case has intake fan filters and to clean them frequently.

As for the rest, it is hard to say without knowing what resolution you will be wanting to play at. If you can get that to us we can better advise on what kind of hardware you will need to drive it.

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  Quote Ailoading Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 May 2014 at 7:27am
Im going to be using a 1920x1080 monitor 24"
Also I thought that the noise reduction system was for making the fans silent isnt or am I wrong
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 May 2014 at 8:45am
Hi Ailoading.....    The Vanquish level 4 at $1259 will give you High to Max gaming with its gtx 770, depending on the game.    It is tough to beat for the price.

If you want an overclocked cpu, a better cooler and power supply and a full size motherboard , here's another way to go.   More money, but more options because its a custom build.

Config # 983353     Cost $ 1767

  Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Digital Storm VIRTUE
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i5 4670K 3.40 GHz (Unlocked CPU) (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS Z97M-PLUS (Intel Z97 Chipset) (MATX)
System Memory: 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 750W EVGA SuperNOVA

Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Optical Drive: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Storage Set 1: 1x SSD (120GB Samsung 840 EVO)
Storage Set 2: 1x Storage (1TB Western Digital - Black Edition)

Storage Set 3: - No Thanks
RAID Config: - No Thanks
RAID Card: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Graphics Card(s): 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770 2GB (Includes PhysX)
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
HPC Processor: - No Thanks
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex 120mm Radiator Liquid CPU Cooler (High-Performance Edition)

H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Fans: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Airflow Control: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 1: Overclock CPU 4.0GHz to 4.4GHz
Boost Graphics Card(s): - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
Portable Gaming: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty (3 Year Labor & 1 Year Part Replacement)  

The full size mobo does have more Sata  ports for more drives, more fan headers to add fans to, and allows up to 32GB ram as opposed to 16Gb with Vanquish.  For most, the 16GB is all you need, and if you won't be adding fans to the mobo, or using more than 3 HDD/SSD drives then the smaller mobo in the Vanquish is fine.

Performance wise in gaming, the Vanquish 4 and this build are very close.  The overclocked cpu in my build does add a few percentage points in performance with certain games. 

Hope this helps  and stay in touch. Big%20Smile


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  Quote Ailoading Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 May 2014 at 9:56am
Originally posted by bprat22



Hi Ailoading.....    The Vanquish level 4 at $1259 will give you High to Max gaming with its gtx 770, depending on the game.    It is tough to beat for the price.If you want an overclocked cpu, a better cooler and power supply and a full size motherboard , here's another way to go.   More money, but more options because its a custom build.Config # 983353     Cost $ 1767  Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Digital Storm VIRTUEExterior Finish: - Standard Factory FinishTrim Accents: - Standard Factory FinishProcessor: Intel Core i5 4670K 3.40 GHz (Unlocked CPU) (Quad Core)Motherboard: ASUS Z97M-PLUS (Intel Z97 Chipset) (MATX)System Memory: 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)Power Supply: 750W EVGA SuperNOVA Expansion Bay: - No ThanksOptical Drive: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)Storage Set 1: 1x SSD (120GB Samsung 840 EVO)Storage Set 2: 1x Storage (1TB Western Digital - Black Edition) Storage Set 3: - No ThanksRAID Config: - No ThanksRAID Card: - No ThanksInternet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)Graphics Card(s): 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770 2GB (Includes PhysX)Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard AudioHPC Processor: - No ThanksExtreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex 120mm Radiator Liquid CPU Cooler (High-Performance Edition) H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System SelectedChassis Fans: Standard Factory Chassis FansInternal Lighting: - No ThanksAirflow Control: - No ThanksChassis Mods: - No ThanksNoise Reduction: - No ThanksLaserMark: - No ThanksBoost Processor: Stage 1: Overclock CPU 4.0GHz to 4.4GHzBoost Graphics Card(s): - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memoryBoost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating systemWindows OS: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (64-Bit Edition)Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows CD)Virus Protection: - No ThanksOffice: - No ThanksGame: - No ThanksDisplay: - No ThanksSurge Shield: - No ThanksSpeakers: - No ThanksKeyboard: - No ThanksMouse: - No ThanksPortable Gaming: - No ThanksExclusive T-Shirt: - No ThanksPriority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully ProcessedWarranty: Life-time Expert Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty (3 Year Labor & 1 Year Part Replacement)   The full size mobo does have more Sata  ports for more drives, more fan headers to add fans to, and allows up to 32GB ram as opposed to 16Gb with Vanquish.  For most, the 16GB is all you need, and if you won't be adding fans to the mobo, or using more than 3 HDD/SSD drives then the smaller mobo in the Vanquish is fine.Performance wise in gaming, the Vanquish 4 and this build are very close.  The overclocked cpu in my build does add a few percentage points in performance with certain games.  Hope this helps  and stay in touch. Big%20Smile

Thanks bprat, I was wondering though would the pc actually need liquid cooling? Sorry for the question but I have no general knowledge of the advantages liquid cooling will do to the pc so would the setup be ok with high performance air cooling?
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 May 2014 at 10:06am
Good point. Big%20Smile

With the stage 1 oc'ing, the stage 1 air might work just fine.  I personally like air cooling over liquid for its dependability but everyone loves the new sealed units. 

Not sure what DS is now using for the air cooler.    The original Hyper 212 worked good.  If this one is the same performance then I would go with the air cooler.


EDIT...  You could go with the Noctua D14 for tops in cooling, but a larger case like the ODE 600T case is needed.   The Noctua cools great, is quiet and just works for years.  But, it does take up space, which is OK with me. 



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  Quote Ailoading Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 May 2014 at 10:15am
Originally posted by bprat22

Good point. Big%20SmileWith the stage 1 oc'ing, the stage 1 air might work just fine.  I personally like air cooling over liquid for its dependability but everyone loves the new sealed units.  Not sure what DS is now using for the air cooler.    The original Hyper 212 worked good.  If this one is the same performance then I would go with the air cooler.

Thats good to know thanks a lot
Hope to buy this setup in 2-3 months with summer job
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 May 2014 at 10:19am
We'll be here whenever you're ready.  StrongBig%20Smile
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Definitely will be worth the hard work Strong
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  Quote Clay Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 30 May 2014 at 8:18pm
Well worth it my friend!!
I7 13700KF 5.4hz
ASUS Prime z790 MoBo
ASUS Dual 4070
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