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  Quote 13cizma Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Oct 2008 at 10:46am
or it might be that the Device setting Task can only support 64 bit?? Disapprove
this kept me the whole night thinking why. lol

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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Oct 2008 at 10:49am
couldn't tell you till I had a chance to play with it myself or at-least find time to read up on it.

maybe somebody else has ran into this problem and can fill us in

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  Quote 13cizma Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Oct 2008 at 10:53am
Yeah, agree, if your close i would probably bring my system Over and a bottle of Whiskey in hand. Ermm

Thanks boss man.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Oct 2008 at 10:58am
no biggie boss, that would have been cool
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  Quote TomD Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Oct 2008 at 12:11pm
Maybe I am just a noob but I don't ever install *NVIDIA System Tools with ESA Support" as it isn't necessary. Just install the most current videocard and motherboard drivers.
 
If you want to update the BIOS, well you can just go into the BIOS.
 
Rivatuner is great for overclocking and monitoring your video cards and can be downloaded from Guru3D.com.
 
NVidia software sucks rocks imho so I install as little of it as possible.
 
Lastly, yes XFX makes you register to download drivers which is a pain, but on the plus side the site remembers what you have so its easy to find what you need as drivers are updated.
 
Good luck.


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  Quote 13cizma Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Oct 2008 at 12:25pm
have you tried installing the ESA Support TomD?
and got a system stability from using it?

Ouch
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Oct 2008 at 12:26pm
I'm with tom, I install as little as possible also
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  Quote 13cizma Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Oct 2008 at 12:35pm
Agree with you bosses, but there are some times in which you would like to attain what this software does, explore it and learn, to know its capabilities.Curious in short.

And by that time if I'll be able to gain enough knowledge and understanding of what it does, then i would install as little as possible.

have you encountered this issue?
but still Curious thou, on why it gives out that error. Geek

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  Quote TomD Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Oct 2008 at 12:49pm
Ciz wrote:
 
"have you tried installing the ESA Support TomD?
and got a system stability from using it?"
I have never installed it, which is why I said "maybe I am just a noob." To indicate I don't have experience using it.
 
On the evga support forums for the 790i boards which I followed regularly while tweaking my system performance, the general consensus was to be to avoid the NVidia control panel since it seemed to cause stability issues for at least some users.
 
Since the comp is freezing in the screens added by the software, it seems logical to me that it may be worth trying to run without it since there are other free tools that work just as well.
 
 
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Thanks TomD appreciate it.

Maybe after a couple of days, if this issue would not be resolve, and would not or would attain a concrete solution/answer.  then I'm done with it, I'll uninstall the ESA Support and everything that is related to this software, and just sit back, relax and play, enjoying my awesome New System from DS.

Woooot~

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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Oct 2008 at 1:18pm
nothing wrong with using apps to learn, if that is what you are doing then more power to you

once you learned, try speedfan, you have to adjust its temps to be in sync with hwmonitor's temps, but after that you can control your fans with speedfan
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Yeah, learning from it, so that at least when someone comes with the same/a bit similar issues, at least we/i/you can give him/her some solutions or answers.

Once again your the best boss man. you have already answered my upcoming question again. Smile

btw, cool site you've got there.




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  Quote TomD Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Oct 2008 at 1:43pm
Thats cool Ciz. I tend to do the same when I first get a PC, its part of the fun.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Oct 2008 at 1:44pm
thank you and you are very welcome

once you learn how fans work and stuff on the nvidia software, you will see its the same concept pretty much with other apps too, just small differences, so when you learn on one app, you are learning how to do it on other apps
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  Quote 13cizma Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Oct 2008 at 1:48pm
Originally posted by TomD

Thats cool Ciz. I tend to do the same when I first get a PC, its part of the fun.


Yeah, but right now im figuring out whats this fan controls, this or this and this.
Winter is coming so i have to set the fans a bit lower.
and the best thing about my DS is that instead of it producing heat.
Its now acting as if it's an AC at fan mode.
 
Hey just noticed your Avatar there, that's a 4 string Bass. Nice. Bass player?Ermm
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I play a little bass, but mostly guitar. My avatar is just one of the defaults on the site - I am too lazy to make my own.
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  Quote 13cizma Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Oct 2008 at 8:31pm
Update:

Just Opened the "ESE" Device Settings in NVIDIA Control Panel. Under Performance Category.

Guess what??Ouch

I got it open !!Heart

but somewhere around 5 - 10 seconds later, the system just frozed, thought it was loading, but then the system suddenly just restarts. and back to windows again.

Mybe i'll give it a week or 2, and after that maybe It would feel like letting me access the DEVICE SETTINGS. it's the PC's decision, soon.Disapprove

I'm starting to feel like the PC is mocking me.Tongue

Suggestions, Recommendations is highly appreciated.
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  Quote 13cizma Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Oct 2008 at 10:31pm
Thanks harleyman, Nice stuffs. AngryHeartErmm



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  Quote 13cizma Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Oct 2008 at 10:43pm
Originally posted by harleyman

Everest will tell you everything else going on with your rig....
 
 
Two programs I never went with out....


i guess you can't donwload the HomeEdition no more. correct me if i'm right, checked out the site, but the only thing i could find is Corporate Edition and Ultimate.

Whats the size file? can it be sent via email?Ouch
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Originally posted by harleyman

Let me get you a better link ....


Wohooo, thanks Harleyman!Angry
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Once again, thanks harleyman. this will keep me from fuzzing about the ESE for a while. I guess it will.Ouch


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lol, I'm kindda starting to get your point. just a tiny bit.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Oct 2008 at 11:57pm
13cizma just a heads up everest has not been updated for a long time and at times tends to show the wrong info. just keep that in mind if ever you see bios say one thing and everest something else.

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thanks Bossman, yeah just noticed it last night. It was not that accurate enough, but there are lots of information for my system i could use, but some aren't.Thumbs%20Down

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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 21 Oct 2008 at 12:50pm
use cpu-z instead everest is old and nobody uses it anymore

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  Quote 13cizma Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 21 Oct 2008 at 2:58pm

whats the difference between the XFX gtx 260 and the PNY gtx 260, obviously the price, but how about the performance? do they differ??Ouch

 
and can you use a XFX gtx 260 and PNY gtx 260 in a SLI mode?


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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 21 Oct 2008 at 3:16pm
xfx is overclocked higher and comes with a life time warranty. pny comes with a 3 year warranty.

I like evga myself

I'm no expert in sli but I think both cards need to be the same.

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thats cool, I don't think the customers want to spend their money on an app that does not report correct info, when they can get an app that does report the correct info for free, which is why I recommended CPU-z.
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Yes you are right, but like I said why would I want to recommend people to pay for something they can get for free
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lol harleyman, you should hand me out a crack for that.Embarrassed

BTW

just an update:

So far i have been successful in Running the ESE without any issues. especially the task under Performance>Device Settings.

Here's my System setup/driver versions in which the system was unstable upon using *NVIDIA System Tools with ESA Support
_________________________________________________________________
Updates
*BIOS:  PO6 to P08
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NVIDIA System Tools with ESA Support: Version 6.01 to Version 6.03
*Nforce Driver: Version 9.64 to Version 15.23

Notes:
Bios V:PO6
Bios V:PO8 (can only  be obtained by registering)??
ESE V:6.01
Nforce V:9.64 &
comes from the stock CD.


SETTINGS/UPDATES in which I got the errors from accessing the
NVIDIA System Tools with ESA Support
In this settings/updates i have encountered the following:

1.) Blue Screens
  • PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA
  • *** STOP:0x00000024
  • *** STOP:0x0000008E
  • etc..
2.) Upon accessing the task Under Performance>Device Settings. When i access this task my system suddenly hangs up and then after a few seconds the system restarts itself.
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________


NOW here is my system setup in which i have been able to run every Nvidia Control Panel task, especially the NVIDIA System Tools with ESA Support
in which i updated or re-updated the NVIDIA System Tools with ESA Support from Version 6.03 to Version 6.02.

Updates
*BIOS:  P08
*
NVIDIA System Tools with ESA Support: Version 6.03 to Version 6.02
*Nforce Driver: Version 15.23












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aha, your mombo drivers where not upto date, but after updating your mombo drivers, you still could not use 6.03?
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My systems drivers are up to date when I got the system stability/errors from using ESE, but i guess it has something to do with the Version 6.03. as what i know, if it is new then it has some issues/bug as what harleyman said
Originally posted by harleyman

The software is still very buggy...
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I'll dig up some information on Version:6.03 on why exactly it gives out system errors/system instability.





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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 21 Oct 2008 at 7:57pm
ya I see, my mistake, so version 6.03 is giving you trouble. conflict with something else you have then.

have you tried to rule out software conflict?
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As far as i know, None. I guess it's just because the VERSION:6.03 is new. and for now i'll stick to this. Until I can dig up some concrete evidence.

As what I say this is Sweet, worth the time spending. its like BIOS in 3D
You can increase or decrease CPU FSB, CPU/Motherboard/GPU/Memory Voltages, CPU Cooling, Clock Speeds, Memory Timings, GPU Core/Memory/Shader/ Clock,  GPU Cooling etc...

and you can save it as profile and change what ever profile you like.Ermm

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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 21 Oct 2008 at 8:08pm
there are other apps that do you that but everybody has their own preferences nothing wrong with that

how do you arrive at the point that its not software conflict?

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