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  Quote Tidgxor Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 08 Nov 2010 at 9:18pm
Maxyme, yes, as far as I know, 1080p is 1920 x 1080.


Unless this website is just blatantly lying and making up quotes, it looks like NVIDIA finally "officially" announced the card, as if anyone out there was still doubting its existence.

http://www.crn.com/news/components-peripherals/228200472/nvidia-releases-geforce-gtx-580-graphics-card.htm


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  Quote justin.kerr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 08 Nov 2010 at 11:14pm
yes, so half the pixels of say a 30" monitor, and half the frames per second of a monitor, so not much GPU power is needed. Big%20Smile
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  Quote ablahblah Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 08 Nov 2010 at 11:25pm
pretty much sums it up right there, it makes no sense for any decent tech nowadays to not be able to do 1080p
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  Quote maxyme Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 08 Nov 2010 at 11:48pm
so i don't get it. when i said 1080p i meant a 1920x1080 monitor. theres no difference. why is justin saying you can use a $80 gpu for it? im so confused.
i hate the monitors that say they are "hd" and then you have to check the resolution to find out they are only 720p or i believe 1366x768.
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  Quote justin.kerr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 08 Nov 2010 at 11:54pm
Sorry, most 1080P users are in reference to 1080P televisions, a 1920x1080 monitor will need appx double the power of a 1080P television.
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  Quote maxyme Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 08 Nov 2010 at 11:56pm
oh ok. yea i just said 1080p because i'm too lazy to type out the resolution and saying hd could imply that its 720p
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  Quote ablahblah Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Nov 2010 at 12:22am
http://fudzilla.com/graphics/item/20777-evga-gtx-580-pictured-listed-at-$499

Man, IDC if it's fud anymore, this ain't no rumor. Hah, I laughed at the supposed "rumor" that nvidia would be releasing tech that was so well hidden two weeks ago, this is looking to be some real stuff.

EDIT : HA! CP broke under the stress.
http://www.tweaktown.com/pressrelease/4485/cyberpower_adds_new_nvidia_gtx_580_fermi_gpu_to_high_end_gaming_pcs/index.html
Go check CP's site. Yeah. 580's listed in configurators now. Confused

Alex...do you know anything...? Smile


Edited by ablahblah - 09 Nov 2010 at 12:32am
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  Quote AndydViking Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Nov 2010 at 2:08am
I guess here they are...
 
@ $560.00 wow!


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10% off w/ promo code EMCZZYR24, limited offer

In stock. Limit 2 per customer.


So.. $504.
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  Quote AndydViking Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Nov 2010 at 2:27am
Your right.  Much more resonable that way lol.  That extra 56 dollars just makes it look so much more expensive to me lol.
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  Quote ablahblah Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Nov 2010 at 2:33am
So...nVidia really wasn't bluffing, not even a paper release. Danng can't wait to see some user bench's :DD

Man, when they said 11/9/10, they meant it, lol, I didn't even catch that at 11PM here.


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  Quote maxyme Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Nov 2010 at 8:40am
wow thats awesome! if only the new intel socket chips were out
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next top of the line Intel socket is a long ways out still.
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  Quote wcboltman Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Nov 2010 at 11:20am
WOW thanks Justin!
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  Quote Caymus Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Nov 2010 at 11:39am
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I would like to see the gain / performance showing the 285 board in SLI compared with both the single and SLI 580. Could not find anything. Care to speculate?
 
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  Quote justin.kerr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Nov 2010 at 11:58am

too many variables. can't compare any Dx11 game. High resolutions and high AA can't really compare either.

On old games with medium resolutions, dual 285's will be around 10%-20% percent slower than a GTX 580., GTX 580 SLI, compared, well a lot more frames per second.. lol
GTX 580 will have a lot better gains with overclocking also.
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  Quote Alex Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Nov 2010 at 12:04pm
Yes guys, the GTX 580 is here now. Sorry I couldn't share it with you sooner!
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  Quote Caymus Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Nov 2010 at 12:10pm
Thanks, I am running gtx 285 SLI @ 1920 x 1200 <native> Might go with one EVGA superclocked 580 for now. Hard to upgrade when my DS rig runs everything I through at it so well. Thinking the DX 11 along with the bump in performance along with less heat / power consumption is the excuse I'll use for now.
 
Thanks agian ....
 
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  Quote dranza Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Nov 2010 at 12:36pm
The 580 is what the 480 should have been on release. Strange the 580 has a lower thermal threshold almost 10 degree lower, typo by nvidia?
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  Quote Invader Mig Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Nov 2010 at 12:38pm
Quoted from OCC

"In the drivers as well as in the power monitoring hardware, NVIDIA has set this card up so that you cannot run a traditional stress test such as Furmark, Kombustor or OCCT. When one of these applications are used, the power usage is throttled and you get much lower temperatures and power consumption than you normally see in this kind of test" On their load test they got 67C for the 580.

I haven't read all the review sites, but many seem to be running into problems getting accurate consumption and temperature numbers. Guru3d says they managed to bypass whatever is causing the card to be throttled and according to their review the power consumption on this card is higher than the 480. It still does seem to be cooler than the 480, but not by much. I'm not sure what to believe, as I have seen some very different numbers. I imagine nvidia is going to catch some flak for this.

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  Quote ablahblah Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Nov 2010 at 4:35pm
Yeep, supposedly that was done to specifically detect Furmark or OCCT, and it throttles down clocks once power usage reaches ~300w. This was done to try to keep the 580 within the 300w power range.
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  Quote Mr. Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Nov 2010 at 5:17pm
soo guys should i get the 580? i think my step up thing from evga still works

EDIT:i heard the step up only is gonna cost me under $10 is this true?!

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  Quote maxyme Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Nov 2010 at 6:44pm
if you are already getting the gtx 480 definitely get the 580. its just a tweaked and better 480. fixes all the issues everyone has had with it before. there really is no reason not to get it. I believe the cost is around $40 extra.
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  Quote Mr. Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Nov 2010 at 7:04pm
oh na, i have a evga 480 right now im wondering how much it is to switch it up to the 580 with the step up program
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  Quote wcboltman Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Nov 2010 at 7:25pm
I believe it's only $40, but check here:

http://www.evga.com/stepup/default.asp?switch=3


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  Quote maxyme Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Nov 2010 at 7:36pm
oh never knew about the step up program! nice to know! Well if you can wait some time while the 480 is shipped to evga and they are shipping the 580 to you then if i were you i would do it.
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yea i think its actually cheaper than 40 because it asks how much u paid for ur vid card at first i think that would be more than reg price since DS charges more for it. pretty sure its only gonna ba the shipping fee. Thing im wondering right now is is the warranty i get from DS gonna be in this card too
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Good timing on the release!

I ordered my new rig last Thursday with 2 x 480's and a simple phone call today and I had my order changed to 2 x 580's Black Ops Edition.

The performance gains over the 480's have me very excited....




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  Quote mwilke Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 Nov 2010 at 2:32pm
Originally posted by Mr.

Thing im wondering right now is is the warranty i get from DS gonna be in this card too


Excellent question to be answered. If we purchase a DS system with an Evga video card and use the step up program will the new card be covered?
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I'd assume that since the card is no longer sold and tested by DS, and is now an end user acquired card, the warranty will now default to being the manufacturer's responsibility. Don't let this discourage you from the step up program and EVGA though, the step up program is still a very viable solution as you can have the security of holding onto reliable old tech while you wait for new tech reviews to come out, in addition to having the sheer insurance of being able to upgrade to new tech if you felt like it (within 90 days of course).

If you think that's unfair, well hey, you have to think of this from the business sense really. If you ran a business, it's never easy to do things like covering shipping back/forth for a defective product you're already losing money on. Same goes for warranty on products the user adds, would you be willing to pay for a product you didn't pay for in the first place? DS isn't getting anything beneficial from the step up program; remember, your current card goes back to EVGA, not the OEM. Be very very grateful that DS actually still offers you component based warranty for what components they tested in shop, regardless of what you add onto it that they have no idea of and have not tested; most companies wouldn't do that. OEM's like Dell would normally just tell you that your warranty's void the second you get inside the case, because they can't be sure what you do inside of it. I'm assuming that DS is knowledgeable enough about their target consumer that this doesn't really come into play, which is one reason why we like DS so much. Thankfully, a lot of people don't take advantage of it (i.e., using a DS rig as a testbed for new hardware, frying maybe a mobo/CPU, sending it back, getting a new one. Limit of 3 major component failures are covered though, I think Alex said; good idea to prevent people from completely taking advantage of that system)


Edited by ablahblah - 13 Nov 2010 at 12:04am
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  Quote Mr. Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Nov 2010 at 12:24am
so guys what would yall say bout the new 580, good? bad? the reviews are just soo long to read and im lazy sorry
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  Quote Dragoonseal Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Nov 2010 at 12:36am
It's about 20% more powerful than the 480, on average, uses the same or a tad more less power, and is $499.

Doesn't look to bad too bad, but it depends on what you can manage to get a 480 for whether it is worth it to you or not.


Edited by Dragoonseal - 13 Nov 2010 at 12:37am
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  Quote Mr. Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Nov 2010 at 12:54am
mm alright, thanks dragoon. hopefully evga's step up will work for me lol it hasnt responded in 2 days.
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  Quote maxyme Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Nov 2010 at 1:25am
personally i think its like from vista to windows 7. it just fixes everything the 580 was criticized for and adds a little bit more.
so to be more detailed little less heat little less power, a few optimizations and a few more cores. oh and its a ton quieter. as quiet as the gtx 295 (i think)
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